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  3. "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

    https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

    There you go, there it is. Yup.

    elexia@catcatnya.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #14

    @cwebber I would like 0.21 intelligence please

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      I'm not claiming that they're right, that you are actually buying "intelligence" from them by the meter, I think that's misleading.

      But also, the fact that that's the *framing* goes to show to you that they absolutely, completely want it to be, and want to sell intellectual slavery, as far as they can get it.

      john@vyrse.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #15

      @cwebber Perfect phrasing. I'm sure they'll sell a cheaper price plan if you get your kids to sign on to accepting your debts after you die, too.

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      • moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM moira@mastodon.murkworks.net

        @PetterOfCats abso-fucking-lutely

        moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #16

        @PetterOfCats Or really more specifically, since he _does_ cover that - and even says it's bad - it's arguably worse. "We see a future where we control all thought and metre it out for payment, and everyone is already enslaved."

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        • lykso@tiny.tilde.websiteL lykso@tiny.tilde.website

          @cwebber Every day radicalizes me more. I need to figure out what flavor of communist I am now.

          elexia@catcatnya.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @lykso @cwebber can always be an anarchist instead. never too late

          lykso@tiny.tilde.websiteL amici@fribygda.noA xyhhx@social.treehouse.systemsX 3 Replies Last reply
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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

            https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

            There you go, there it is. Yup.

            xgebi@hachyderm.ioX This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @cwebber does he look sleep deprived only to me? He also sounds exhausted.

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

              https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

              There you go, there it is. Yup.

              elexia@catcatnya.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #19

              @cwebber it's wild how white men get in these positions despite having the charisma of a wet sack of potatoes

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                There you go, there it is. Yup.

                cxberger@mastodon.boiler.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                cxberger@mastodon.boiler.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #20

                @cwebber funny, I recall OpenAI repeatedly saying "too cheap to meter" in the past. Hypocrisy is nothing new from them ofc, but, y'know.

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  I'm not claiming that they're right, that you are actually buying "intelligence" from them by the meter, I think that's misleading.

                  But also, the fact that that's the *framing* goes to show to you that they absolutely, completely want it to be, and want to sell intellectual slavery, as far as they can get it.

                  greyduck@wellduck.meG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #21

                  @cwebber They're inventing a market that they can corner, or at least try their damnedest to.

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                  • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

                    @lykso @cwebber can always be an anarchist instead. never too late

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                    #22

                    @elexia @cwebber Yeah, that's fair. I'm somewhere on that spectrum, but I haven't read enough of either's literature to have a clear idea of where I fall. I'm not a humanist, which seems to make many anarchist positions difficult, but I also recognize that the State is fundamentally a protection racket.

                    If I say any more, I'm definitely going to say something stupid (if I haven't already!). Better for me to listen, I think.

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                      https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                      There you go, there it is. Yup.

                      mzedp@plasmatrap.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #23

                      @cwebber@social.coop So, if using this is actively harmful to the intellect of the users that just feeds their business model.

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                      • moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM moira@mastodon.murkworks.net

                        @cwebber non-X-hosted copy of the video

                        #dystopian #AI #SamAltman #evil #intelligence

                        june@mspsocial.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #24

                        @moira @cwebber this man must be stopped

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                          https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                          There you go, there it is. Yup.

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                          #25

                          @cwebber @jalefkowit

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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                            https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                            There you go, there it is. Yup.

                            joshin4colours@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #26

                            @cwebber oof was not ready for that pull quote

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              I'm not claiming that they're right, that you are actually buying "intelligence" from them by the meter, I think that's misleading.

                              But also, the fact that that's the *framing* goes to show to you that they absolutely, completely want it to be, and want to sell intellectual slavery, as far as they can get it.

                              jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #27

                              @cwebber The closest they've ever come to a consistent definition of intelligence is something that can do economically valuable work.

                              Under that definition, what he's proposing is that you would rent the ability to do work, at all, from him. And that is in keeping with the ai/vc set's stated goals and past actions.

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                              • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

                                @lykso @cwebber can always be an anarchist instead. never too late

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                                #28

                                @elexia @lykso @cwebber

                                anarchists are communists, at least the anarchists who take the name from the first international, from which it was used to describe those who did not believe in Marx's idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat as a temporary continuation of the state apparatus

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                                • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                                  @cwebber The closest they've ever come to a consistent definition of intelligence is something that can do economically valuable work.

                                  Under that definition, what he's proposing is that you would rent the ability to do work, at all, from him. And that is in keeping with the ai/vc set's stated goals and past actions.

                                  401matthall@mastodon.xyz4 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #29

                                  @jenniferplusplus

                                  Yeah, I think I'm in pretty strong agreement with this.

                                  That what's being 'sold' is 'work' not 'intelligence'. It's not _thinking_ about a problem it's _iterating_ until it's RNG kicks out a good-enough solution. An endless parade of, "How 'bout this one, boss? 😃"

                                  Intelligence isn't manifested in 'work'.

                                  The choice of the word 'intelligence' is a deliberate mislabeling of what they would _like_ to be selling.

                                  @cwebber

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                                    https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                                    There you go, there it is. Yup.

                                    khrys@mamot.frK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #30

                                    @cwebber 😱 🤮

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                                    • amici@fribygda.noA amici@fribygda.no

                                      @elexia @lykso @cwebber

                                      anarchists are communists, at least the anarchists who take the name from the first international, from which it was used to describe those who did not believe in Marx's idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat as a temporary continuation of the state apparatus

                                      elexia@catcatnya.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #31

                                      @amici @lykso @cwebber I think that is an oversimplification even for the time, but in any case we don't live in the 19th century anymore and people have had a lot of different thoughts on both anarchism and communism since then. as such many anarchists these days don't identify as communists and do not necessarily share positions you might see as defining for communism.

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter..." -- Sam Altman

                                        https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2032012809433723158

                                        There you go, there it is. Yup.

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                                        #32

                                        @cwebber

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                                        • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                                          @cwebber The closest they've ever come to a consistent definition of intelligence is something that can do economically valuable work.

                                          Under that definition, what he's proposing is that you would rent the ability to do work, at all, from him. And that is in keeping with the ai/vc set's stated goals and past actions.

                                          megmac@social.treehouse.systemsM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #33

                                          @jenniferplusplus @cwebber yes! This is a thing I keep coming back to in how I feel about what's going on. The effort here is to build the ultimate "rent a shovel" service where the entire economy is dependent on an oligopoly of cloud providers to functionally do work.

                                          I can live with a lot of things I don't like, but that's basically anathema to me.

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