20,000 mail accounts.
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@david42 @anneroth @cavallette
Sure there's a problem with uptake.
But it's the only way to get out from under the US boot on our collective necks.
@barbra @anneroth @cavallette Okay yes, if say the EU added an Alt DNS root that coordinated with ICANN to not overlap on top level domain names, and much of Europe if not the world started using it, then yes, that would work. But A/I couldn't've introduced their own alt DNS root after Aug 26 and had that gotten enough uptake to save them.
But the precedent here is that once A/I had names on this hypothetical alt root, the US could've declared the org running the alt root terrorists. & Repeat.
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@barbra @anneroth @cavallette Okay yes, if say the EU added an Alt DNS root that coordinated with ICANN to not overlap on top level domain names, and much of Europe if not the world started using it, then yes, that would work. But A/I couldn't've introduced their own alt DNS root after Aug 26 and had that gotten enough uptake to save them.
But the precedent here is that once A/I had names on this hypothetical alt root, the US could've declared the org running the alt root terrorists. & Repeat.
@david42 @anneroth @cavallette
Who cares if domain names overlap?
A/I could have just asked people to enter their server's ipv6 address into their hosts file. And if you're going to do that, they could have self-hosted their own servers. It's not that expensive. Or that hard.
As word got out, more people could do it. Then people could have posted clickable links to the ipv6 address all over the place - no need for everyone to edit their own hosts file.
I was doing this 30 years ago so I could stream my music collection at the office over a crappy 1 mbps cable modem link - multiple connections worked fine.
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@fenixmaster @anneroth @cavallette Ja, aber die meisten Regierungen in der EU sind bestenfalls "nicht links" von der Heritage Foundation.
@tkissing @anneroth @cavallette Daar heb je een punt.
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@anneroth @cavallette Not a judge, a court, or jury had anything to say about it.
Europe is not sovereign, we are a client state of the USA.
@gimulnautti @anneroth @cavallette täsmälleen. Ja Alexander Stubbit heidän palvelija...
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@eclinton @anneroth @cavallette what "bold claim". Trump decided a non existent label is a terrorist organization, and by definition anyone who dislikes his policies is Antifa and then proceeded to make it impossible for a non-US entity to operate. I guess we are lucky he didn't follow it up with an illegal airstrike or kidnap the president of another sovereign nation.
@Offbeatmammal @anneroth @cavallette Ok, i understand your point. No government should be infringing speech.
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20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
womp womp, USAID money dried up
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@david42 @anneroth @cavallette
Who cares if domain names overlap?
A/I could have just asked people to enter their server's ipv6 address into their hosts file. And if you're going to do that, they could have self-hosted their own servers. It's not that expensive. Or that hard.
As word got out, more people could do it. Then people could have posted clickable links to the ipv6 address all over the place - no need for everyone to edit their own hosts file.
I was doing this 30 years ago so I could stream my music collection at the office over a crappy 1 mbps cable modem link - multiple connections worked fine.
@barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette
you've moved the problem to IANA instead of ICANN
how to get so many ipv6 addresses? who controls that, its still a bullshit central authority.
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@barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette
you've moved the problem to IANA instead of ICANN
how to get so many ipv6 addresses? who controls that, its still a bullshit central authority.
@Li @david42 @anneroth @cavallette
Every time your modem connects to an isp, your isp assigns your modem an ipv6 address from its allottment. The modem will reconnect after a power failure or reboot, so you might not get the same address again.
Not really a problem if you also have a server at a hosting facility, since you can host a link there, and update it when your local ip changes, same as a dynamic dns service.
These are solved problems, have been for decades.
No need to involve either IANA or ICANN. You're operating independent of both of them.
I'm really surprised that nobody connected with the affected organisation didn't try this. They had a whole month.
My guess is they don't have any old farts who were doing these things to host web servers from home way back when.
It solves some other problems too - like space for videos. I could host 10s of terabytes of video at home, and there's no monthly storage fee. On a hosting account that gets crazy expensive.
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@eclinton @anneroth @cavallette There is a U.S. Department of the Treasury press release. Are you always this confidently wrong?
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@david42 @anneroth @cavallette
Who cares if domain names overlap?
A/I could have just asked people to enter their server's ipv6 address into their hosts file. And if you're going to do that, they could have self-hosted their own servers. It's not that expensive. Or that hard.
As word got out, more people could do it. Then people could have posted clickable links to the ipv6 address all over the place - no need for everyone to edit their own hosts file.
I was doing this 30 years ago so I could stream my music collection at the office over a crappy 1 mbps cable modem link - multiple connections worked fine.
@barbra @anneroth @cavallette I care as a user and as a server host if example.example resolves to different and uncoordinated DNS records, managed by uncoordinated people, on distinct global roots. It also complicates name certificates. You really don't want the people who own example.example on the ICAAN system and those who own it on the hypothetical EU global root to be able to impersonate each other's hosts.
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@barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette
you've moved the problem to IANA instead of ICANN
how to get so many ipv6 addresses? who controls that, its still a bullshit central authority.
@Li @barbra @anneroth @cavallette honestly people could randomly generate IPv6 addresses all day and not collide with each other. They are the same size as UUIDs. They do not need assignment for honest users to avoid collisions. They only need assignment to prevent impersonation attacks.
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@Li @david42 @anneroth @cavallette
Every time your modem connects to an isp, your isp assigns your modem an ipv6 address from its allottment. The modem will reconnect after a power failure or reboot, so you might not get the same address again.
Not really a problem if you also have a server at a hosting facility, since you can host a link there, and update it when your local ip changes, same as a dynamic dns service.
These are solved problems, have been for decades.
No need to involve either IANA or ICANN. You're operating independent of both of them.
I'm really surprised that nobody connected with the affected organisation didn't try this. They had a whole month.
My guess is they don't have any old farts who were doing these things to host web servers from home way back when.
It solves some other problems too - like space for videos. I could host 10s of terabytes of video at home, and there's no monthly storage fee. On a hosting account that gets crazy expensive.
@barbra @Li @anneroth @cavallette If A/I had tried this sort of thing, the Internet providers would've refused to keep them as clients.
Also, your "free" 10 TB of storage at home isn't free for folks who need to buy their disks and replacements when they fail, pay their electricity bills, account for their additional time managing their home server, etc.
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@barbra @Li @anneroth @cavallette If A/I had tried this sort of thing, the Internet providers would've refused to keep them as clients.
Also, your "free" 10 TB of storage at home isn't free for folks who need to buy their disks and replacements when they fail, pay their electricity bills, account for their additional time managing their home server, etc.
@barbra @Li @anneroth @cavallette Moreover, the A/I statement about shutting down didn't say they were out of technical options to keep services up. It said that A/I keeping things up would make their clients the next targets. None of the technical approaches you are bringing up would address that problem.
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@barbra @Li @anneroth @cavallette Moreover, the A/I statement about shutting down didn't say they were out of technical options to keep services up. It said that A/I keeping things up would make their clients the next targets. None of the technical approaches you are bringing up would address that problem.
@david42 @barbra @anneroth @cavallette this very much feels like a 'technical solutions to a social problem' situation..
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@david42 @barbra @anneroth @cavallette this very much feels like a 'technical solutions to a social problem' situation..
@Li @david42 @barbra @anneroth @cavallette
It said that A/I keeping things up would make their clients the next targets.
if so then what would be so wrong with simply making that clear so people can include it in their threat models. this is not a valid reason to shut everything down, and likely indeed not their actual reason
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth that sounds at least a little like cowardice if it’s a foreign state with no actual jurisdiction where you are
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth we should not blame the victims yes but letting them scare you and obeying in advance is doing their job for them which is always disappointing to see
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth yeah, but isnt this conversation operating under the assumption they could, yknow, resist the pressure, and that that is the right thing to do
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth yeah, but isnt this conversation operating under the assumption they could, yknow, resist the pressure, and that that is the right thing to do
@hsza @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth i dont disagree that its the right or better thing to do, and support them if they did do that and such but i also understand if they dont want to put themselves at risk, shit is fucking hard,
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@hsza @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth i dont disagree that its the right or better thing to do, and support them if they did do that and such but i also understand if they dont want to put themselves at risk, shit is fucking hard,
@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth tis just one of the most easy ways to piss me off: giving fascists what they want without actually being forced to. people obeying in advance is the backbone of any fascist power structure. fascism would not be a thing without it
granted we do not know what it was in this case because the blog post says borderline nothing
