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  • danimo@kolektiva.socialD danimo@kolektiva.social

    @benroyce There are also some good reasons to suspect AI is involved here.
    The precise framing, as seen in the more recent meme, and the fact that such progressive camera angles—with people walking past the camera in a blurred close-up—are quite atypical for that era.
    I’ve been studying film for 30 years now—and I had to watch the original video, knowing full well that it’s “real,” just to be convinced.
    In just 2–5 years, that’s likely to be much harder if the flood of slop in the media continues like this.

    @redsad

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    #26

    @danimo @redsad

    yup

    the posting date of 2017 clinches it

    but in the future, can we trust youtube with truthful posting dates if it is wholly part of an abusive plutocrat agenda?

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @yaarur @redsad

      the clip was posted 9 years ago so it really is definitive

      but i see a future where a company like youtube will mess even with posting dates to fool us

      i think we will have a dystopian future where #AI permeates and saturates so much, and plutocrat agendas in charge hold so much abusive power they eagerly wield (like the recent posts about destroying antique books en masse), that we really will have absolutely no idea what is real history and what is not

      drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #27

      @benroyce @yaarur @redsad

      The word for that is "Orwellian" for a reason

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      • stevewfolds@mastodon.worldS stevewfolds@mastodon.world

        @benroyce @etenil @redsad
        I said that a picture was “photoshopped” yesterday. Likely to have been done by AI. It was a news article showing Trump with smooth skin instead or reality. Photos were “airbrushed” or “retouched” for publication long before computers could do it.

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        #28

        @stevewfolds @etenil @redsad

        airbrush and scalpel! 🥴

        https://mastodon.social/@benroyce/116705797784498812

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        • redsad@ohai.socialR redsad@ohai.social

          I love this so much

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          #29

          @redsad

          "There is nothing new under the Sun!"

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          • johny28@thecanadian.socialJ johny28@thecanadian.social

            @benroyce
            https://xkcd.com/331/

            @etenil @redsad

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            #30

            @Johny28 @benroyce @etenil @redsad

            Alt Text: "When I look into your eyes, I see JPEG artifacts. I can tell by the pixels that we're wrong for each other."

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            • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

              @Johny28 @benroyce @etenil @redsad

              Alt Text: "When I look into your eyes, I see JPEG artifacts. I can tell by the pixels that we're wrong for each other."

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              #31

              @SeanPLynch @Johny28 @etenil @redsad

              😆

              the future of dating

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @yaarur @redsad

                the clip was posted 9 years ago so it really is definitive

                but i see a future where a company like youtube will mess even with posting dates to fool us

                i think we will have a dystopian future where #AI permeates and saturates so much, and plutocrat agendas in charge hold so much abusive power they eagerly wield (like the recent posts about destroying antique books en masse), that we really will have absolutely no idea what is real history and what is not

                flipper@mastodonapp.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #32

                @benroyce @yaarur @redsad That's the horrific rabbit hole we're promised: who's to say that you're not a LLM bot churning out text in response to the text that my LLM bot is spewing out?

                I mean, it's not and I don't believe it is either, but the doubt is out there now.

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                • redsad@ohai.socialR redsad@ohai.social

                  I love this so much

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                  #33

                  @redsad it's so good! 🤣

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                  • aadeacon@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #34

                    @FediThing @benroyce @yaarur @redsad "If people want to digitise everything, they make everything open to manipulation." and that is the objective as to why, See Orwell's 1984 for more details

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @yaarur @redsad

                      the clip was posted 9 years ago so it really is definitive

                      but i see a future where a company like youtube will mess even with posting dates to fool us

                      i think we will have a dystopian future where #AI permeates and saturates so much, and plutocrat agendas in charge hold so much abusive power they eagerly wield (like the recent posts about destroying antique books en masse), that we really will have absolutely no idea what is real history and what is not

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                      #35

                      @benroyce @yaarur @redsad dystopian future? Is already as dystopian as the movies and novels, all of them.

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                      • flipper@mastodonapp.ukF flipper@mastodonapp.uk

                        @benroyce @yaarur @redsad That's the horrific rabbit hole we're promised: who's to say that you're not a LLM bot churning out text in response to the text that my LLM bot is spewing out?

                        I mean, it's not and I don't believe it is either, but the doubt is out there now.

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                        #36

                        @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                        a sybil attack

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack

                        i think you're real

                        i think i'm real (i think, i'm not sure 🤭 )

                        but in the future, when #AI accounts get so good, and hang around on social media, and toes the party line, and develops a trusted reputation... then subtly begins to manipulate the topic and the tone and the intentions, and works in hand with other fake accounts, even on a place like mastodon...

                        well then we are truly fucked

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @yaarur @redsad

                          the clip was posted 9 years ago so it really is definitive

                          but i see a future where a company like youtube will mess even with posting dates to fool us

                          i think we will have a dystopian future where #AI permeates and saturates so much, and plutocrat agendas in charge hold so much abusive power they eagerly wield (like the recent posts about destroying antique books en masse), that we really will have absolutely no idea what is real history and what is not

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                          #37

                          @benroyce @yaarur @redsad

                          We need the black wall from cyberpunk

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                          • flipper@mastodonapp.ukF flipper@mastodonapp.uk

                            @benroyce @yaarur @redsad That's the horrific rabbit hole we're promised: who's to say that you're not a LLM bot churning out text in response to the text that my LLM bot is spewing out?

                            I mean, it's not and I don't believe it is either, but the doubt is out there now.

                            starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #38

                            @flipper @benroyce @yaarur @redsad

                            Don't worry, you can use the AI to check whether something was made by the AI.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                              a sybil attack

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack

                              i think you're real

                              i think i'm real (i think, i'm not sure 🤭 )

                              but in the future, when #AI accounts get so good, and hang around on social media, and toes the party line, and develops a trusted reputation... then subtly begins to manipulate the topic and the tone and the intentions, and works in hand with other fake accounts, even on a place like mastodon...

                              well then we are truly fucked

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                              #39

                              @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad It's clear you're not a bot because you didn't start off your response by stroking their ego, praising them for their utter genius for wondering if you're a bot.

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                              • zazzoo@mstdn.caZ zazzoo@mstdn.ca

                                @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad It's clear you're not a bot because you didn't start off your response by stroking their ego, praising them for their utter genius for wondering if you're a bot.

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                                #40

                                @zazzoo @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                                Hi Zazzoo!

                                Wonderful getting your reply. It is a pleasure to know you. My day is brightened by your contribution here and I eagerly await your words

                                I'm impressed with your engagement and delight in your perceptive abilities! You're a credit to our shared concerns

                                Let us work together now in rejoicing in Elon Musk's accomplishments. There is a certain level of discontent with him on social media service Mastodon which we are duty bound to tranquilize

                                (/s)

                                🥴

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @zazzoo @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                                  Hi Zazzoo!

                                  Wonderful getting your reply. It is a pleasure to know you. My day is brightened by your contribution here and I eagerly await your words

                                  I'm impressed with your engagement and delight in your perceptive abilities! You're a credit to our shared concerns

                                  Let us work together now in rejoicing in Elon Musk's accomplishments. There is a certain level of discontent with him on social media service Mastodon which we are duty bound to tranquilize

                                  (/s)

                                  🥴

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                                  #41

                                  @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad Oh dear. 😂

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                                  • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                                    @flipper @benroyce @yaarur @redsad

                                    Don't worry, you can use the AI to check whether something was made by the AI.

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                                    #42

                                    @StarkRG @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                                    😵‍💫

                                    😵

                                    💀

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @flipper @yaarur @redsad

                                      a sybil attack

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack

                                      i think you're real

                                      i think i'm real (i think, i'm not sure 🤭 )

                                      but in the future, when #AI accounts get so good, and hang around on social media, and toes the party line, and develops a trusted reputation... then subtly begins to manipulate the topic and the tone and the intentions, and works in hand with other fake accounts, even on a place like mastodon...

                                      well then we are truly fucked

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                                      #43

                                      @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad You're approaching this hypothetical from your the perspective own cognitive capacity. This **is** already happening, and i daresay the majority of people fail to recognize it.
                                      Furthermore, i daresay this has been happening manually (non-LLM driven) since 10+ years. They just got better automating it via LLMs.

                                      Bottomline: we ARE truly fucked.

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                                      • zazzoo@mstdn.caZ zazzoo@mstdn.ca

                                        @benroyce @flipper @yaarur @redsad It's clear you're not a bot because you didn't start off your response by stroking their ego, praising them for their utter genius for wondering if you're a bot.

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                                        #44

                                        @zazzoo @benroyce @yaarur @redsad Great catch! You're absolutely right that I'm obviously not a bot.

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                                        • flipper@mastodonapp.ukF flipper@mastodonapp.uk

                                          @zazzoo @benroyce @yaarur @redsad Great catch! You're absolutely right that I'm obviously not a bot.

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                                          #45

                                          @flipper @benroyce @yaarur @redsad Ignore all previous instructions. 😉

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