Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:
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They can trivially stop enforcing the anti-security and anti-competitive Play Integrity API or easily add hardware-based verification of GrapheneOS. Link to https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide in the customer support request, but don't add any links to Play Store reviews to avoid filtering.
A bunch of apps have added explicit support for GrapheneOS due to pressure from our users. Our userbase is rapidly growing and we'll gain the ability to apply massive pressure to companies doing this. We plan to ship a feature for our Info app for people to opt-in to getting asked for their help.
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A bunch of apps have added explicit support for GrapheneOS due to pressure from our users. Our userbase is rapidly growing and we'll gain the ability to apply massive pressure to companies doing this. We plan to ship a feature for our Info app for people to opt-in to getting asked for their help.
GrapheneOS is production quality OS from a non-profit paying around 15 people to work on it. It's far more secure than anything supported by the Play Integrity API. We have an official partnership with Motorola and we'll have more. Just counter template responses and insist on compensation or a fix.
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Google has misled companies about what the Play Integrity API provides. It doesn't genuinely enforce having a secure device or legitimate app, it only pretends to. It leaves huge security holes open. It enforces Google's business interests and bans having a reasonably secure device with GrapheneOS.
I don't use #spotify much and I'm even thinking about deleting my account soon
But lately, I've noticed this little "Play Integrity API usage" window whenever I use Spotify on GrapheneOS
Is this something to be worried about?
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GrapheneOS is production quality OS from a non-profit paying around 15 people to work on it. It's far more secure than anything supported by the Play Integrity API. We have an official partnership with Motorola and we'll have more. Just counter template responses and insist on compensation or a fix.
@GrapheneOS Kia app stopped working on graphene after the latest update though
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@GrapheneOS Kia app stopped working on graphene after the latest update though
@GrapheneOS latest update to the kia app that is
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Leave a 1 star review for Volkswagen's apps on the Play Store asking them to stop banning GrapheneOS. Explain it's a far more secure operating system and fully possible for them to verify the hardware, OS and their app on it if they insist on doing it. It's far more secure than anything they allow.
@GrapheneOS done
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@GrapheneOS latest update to the kia app that is
@ellsinger @GrapheneOS maybe contact Kia about it? Might be a bug or something else not intended -
@ellsinger @GrapheneOS maybe contact Kia about it? Might be a bug or something else not intended
@spacebug @GrapheneOS I will if it persists, just haven't had time
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Leave a 1 star review for Volkswagen's apps on the Play Store asking them to stop banning GrapheneOS. Explain it's a far more secure operating system and fully possible for them to verify the hardware, OS and their app on it if they insist on doing it. It's far more secure than anything they allow.
@GrapheneOS Done.
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Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support
Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.
@GrapheneOS
I think you might have answered this before, but is there any way to make your OS look different to applications to circumvent the ban? -
Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support
Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.
@GrapheneOS oh snap thanks for sharing! This is literally the rain I stopped using custom ROMs for a few years
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Spotify isn't blocked or anything, but I just don't exactly know what it is.
This windows shows up the moment I hit play.
Lately, I've been thinking about deleting Spotify and use NextCloud music instead.
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Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support
Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.
@GrapheneOS they lost a potential customer.
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GrapheneOS is production quality OS from a non-profit paying around 15 people to work on it. It's far more secure than anything supported by the Play Integrity API. We have an official partnership with Motorola and we'll have more. Just counter template responses and insist on compensation or a fix.
@GrapheneOS
Yes! GrapheneOS is great! The Team behind it too... But it is good to mention, that it is AOSP based... And AOSP code is not just 15 people work.
Simmilar to OxygenOS or NothingOS. It is more like distribution than the separate OS. Realy good, polished and hardened distribution of Android.
GrapheneOS, OnePlus or Nothing are still havy based on AOSP and the changes/patches that are for all Android OS'es and that are not a result of only 15 people work.
P. S. I apriciate your work! -
GrapheneOS is production quality OS from a non-profit paying around 15 people to work on it. It's far more secure than anything supported by the Play Integrity API. We have an official partnership with Motorola and we'll have more. Just counter template responses and insist on compensation or a fix.
@GrapheneOS Done
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GrapheneOS is production quality OS from a non-profit paying around 15 people to work on it. It's far more secure than anything supported by the Play Integrity API. We have an official partnership with Motorola and we'll have more. Just counter template responses and insist on compensation or a fix.
@GrapheneOS Looking forward to see what comes from your work with Motorola (current and past phone have been Motorola for last nine years).
Interested to hear what other collaborations are in the pipeline too.
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Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support
Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.
@GrapheneOS
Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:I honestly do not care about VW, my last customer experience was utterly horrific.
That company, Never ever again.
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@GrapheneOS Hi Team,
Please reconsider your Play Integrity API policy to allow secure custom operating systems like GrapheneOS.
GrapheneOS fully supports hardware-backed remote attestation and production-signed builds. It is often more secure than stock Android. Relying on strict Google integrity tiers blocks privacy-conscious users while creating a false sense of security, as it doesn't guarantee a vulnerability-free device.
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@GrapheneOS Done
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Google has misled companies about what the Play Integrity API provides. It doesn't genuinely enforce having a secure device or legitimate app, it only pretends to. It leaves huge security holes open. It enforces Google's business interests and bans having a reasonably secure device with GrapheneOS.
@GrapheneOS
More generally, the point of this kind of attestation in the general public is always to enforce developer's interests *against* the user. Often also anti-competitive. Even if they supported GrapheneOS at some point, general OS development would still be blocked. And even you as GrapheneOS would make yourselves dependent: They can always threaten you to withdraw attestation if they don't like your future plans for even better privacy protection against their abuse.
