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  3. Twice as many people die in car accidents *every day*.

Twice as many people die in car accidents *every day*.

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  • dabeaz@mastodon.socialD dabeaz@mastodon.social

    @shriramk Yes, but not all in the same car.

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    @dabeaz @shriramk You, sir, have never witnessed the tragedy of a clown car in an accident.

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    • xgebi@hachyderm.ioX xgebi@hachyderm.io

      @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe May I ask where did you get your number and which country it applies to?

      Also may I ask you to not to manipulate data?

      Wikipedia states that in 2022 1759 died in Spain in traffic related accidents which is about 5 people per day. 5 ≠ 39

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      @xgebi Oh thx!

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      • xgebi@hachyderm.ioX xgebi@hachyderm.io

        @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe May I ask where did you get your number and which country it applies to?

        Also may I ask you to not to manipulate data?

        Wikipedia states that in 2022 1759 died in Spain in traffic related accidents which is about 5 people per day. 5 ≠ 39

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        @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe but if you like at the EU it's closer to 56 per day: 20.380 in 2023.

        https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?oldid=630784

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        • wmd@chaos.socialW wmd@chaos.social

          @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe but if you like at the EU it's closer to 56 per day: 20.380 in 2023.

          https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?oldid=630784

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          @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe In the USA closer to 112 per day, 40.990 in 2023.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

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          • wmd@chaos.socialW wmd@chaos.social

            @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe In the USA closer to 112 per day, 40.990 in 2023.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

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            @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe or in 2013; 3.425 per day world wide...

            https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Epidemiology_of_motor_vehicle_collisions&wprov=rarw1

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            • wmd@chaos.socialW wmd@chaos.social

              @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe or in 2013; 3.425 per day world wide...

              https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Epidemiology_of_motor_vehicle_collisions&wprov=rarw1

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              @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe

              about 474 per day in india (2023): https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g49pgx6d0o

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              • wmd@chaos.socialW wmd@chaos.social

                @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe

                about 474 per day in india (2023): https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g49pgx6d0o

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                @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe

                China had in 2021 either 250.000 or 62.000 depending on who you ask. So 685 p/d vs 170 p/d.

                https://asiantransportobservatory.org/analytical-outputs/roadsafetyprofiles/china-road-safety-profile-2025/

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                • wmd@chaos.socialW wmd@chaos.social

                  @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe

                  China had in 2021 either 250.000 or 62.000 depending on who you ask. So 685 p/d vs 170 p/d.

                  https://asiantransportobservatory.org/analytical-outputs/roadsafetyprofiles/china-road-safety-profile-2025/

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                  @xgebi @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe russia seems pretty low at 42 per day in 2021:

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

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                  • dabeaz@mastodon.socialD dabeaz@mastodon.social

                    @PeterLudemann @shriramk Instead of crashes, we should really be talking about sharks. Do people even realize how much national news coverage is given to shark attacks (and occasionally coyotes)? Am I the only one who notices?!?

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                    @dabeaz

                    More sharks! And they attacked! https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/sydney-beaches-close-after-three-shark-attacks-two-days-2026-01-19/

                    @shriramk

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                    • xgebi@hachyderm.ioX xgebi@hachyderm.io

                      @shriramk @GreenSkyOverMe May I ask where did you get your number and which country it applies to?

                      Also may I ask you to not to manipulate data?

                      Wikipedia states that in 2022 1759 died in Spain in traffic related accidents which is about 5 people per day. 5 ≠ 39

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                      @xgebi
                      My alt text contains the full links to my sources.

                      I was comparing to US car deaths because this is from a US newspaper. That is *a* reasonable point of comparison: what does the US paper choose to report, or even what it contextualizes (e.g., it could have put that Spanish number in context, whether in Spain or the US).

                      And finally, it is better to ask questions first and confirm the facts before accusing someone of something as extreme as "manipulat[ing] data".
                      @GreenSkyOverMe

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                      • shriramk@mastodon.socialS shriramk@mastodon.social

                        @xgebi
                        My alt text contains the full links to my sources.

                        I was comparing to US car deaths because this is from a US newspaper. That is *a* reasonable point of comparison: what does the US paper choose to report, or even what it contextualizes (e.g., it could have put that Spanish number in context, whether in Spain or the US).

                        And finally, it is better to ask questions first and confirm the facts before accusing someone of something as extreme as "manipulat[ing] data".
                        @GreenSkyOverMe

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                        @shriramk In the alt text please put a copy of a text from the image so that blind people know what is in the image.
                        Please put the links in the body of the toot.

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                        • greenskyoverme@ohai.socialG greenskyoverme@ohai.social

                          @shriramk In the alt text please put a copy of a text from the image so that blind people know what is in the image.
                          Please put the links in the body of the toot.

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                          @shriramk If you don’t believe me maybe you will believe blind people: https://beige.party/@NinjaNia/115919731993982921

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