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  3. For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose.

For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose.

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  • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

    For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

    ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

    This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

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    #9

    @codemonkeymike What’s a good Linux distro for someone new to Linux?

    codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC metamere@genart.socialM fourmiune@mastodon.worldF wmd@chaos.socialW desantis@mastodon.bida.imD 7 Replies Last reply
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    • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

      For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

      ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

      This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

      sylkykat@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #10

      @codemonkeymike Switching to #Ubuntu has given my laptop years of further service. My laptop wouldn't have been able to run Windows 11, and I wanted out of the Windows mess anyway.

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      • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

        For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

        ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

        This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

        vwestlife@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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        #11

        @codemonkeymike Older versions of Windows and Mac OS install on them anyway, too. (I'm typing this from a computer running Windows XP.)

        purple@nya.socialP tschenkel@mathstodon.xyzT anatudor@mastodon.socialA 3 Replies Last reply
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        • thegardendude@regenerate.socialT thegardendude@regenerate.social

          @codemonkeymike What’s a good Linux distro for someone new to Linux?

          codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #12

          @thegardendude I put one together just for this purpose. Or something more mainstream like Linux mint.

          https://nixbookos.org/

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          • vwestlife@mastodon.socialV vwestlife@mastodon.social

            @codemonkeymike Older versions of Windows and Mac OS install on them anyway, too. (I'm typing this from a computer running Windows XP.)

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            #13
            @vwestlife@mastodon.social @codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org brave to bring it on the internet 😕

            (yes, old crap is still in the wild)
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            • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

              For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

              ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

              This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

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              #14

              @codemonkeymike

              Zustimmung.

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              • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #15

                @codemonkeymike

                Exactly.

                My 13-y-o MacBook is exciting again.

                And once again performing like the day I first unboxed it.

                Because Linux/GNU.

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                • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                  For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                  ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                  This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                  technically_good@techhub.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #16

                  @codemonkeymike Yes!! I have an ASUS Vivobook from when I was in grad school ca. 2016 - would have likely gone to the Eco station if I'd tried to install Win 11 on it.

                  Instead, it is humming along juuuust fine with @pop_os_official on it. I use it to do research and write articles for my blog, plus assorted feed reading, browsing, email, all that good stuff. Even some light Steam gaming.

                  And it looks sleeker than Windows ever did!

                  #Linux #upcycle

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                  • thegardendude@regenerate.socialT thegardendude@regenerate.social

                    @codemonkeymike What’s a good Linux distro for someone new to Linux?

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                    #17

                    @thegardendude
                    Coming from Windows, I found Linux Mint to make for an easy transition. If you're more used to the Mac OS, I've heard Ubuntu might be a good option (wasn't for me).

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                    • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                      For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                      ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                      This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                      m1rk0@social.defcon42.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #18

                      @codemonkeymike My 2015 machine is still running Win11 with ease and gets all the updates without issues. Yes, i had to tweak the installation process, but there are dozens of tools for dummies out there to guide you through it.
                      I don't want to win an argument, but please tell the full story. You are hurting only yourself.

                      zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC 2 Replies Last reply
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                      • thegardendude@regenerate.socialT thegardendude@regenerate.social

                        @codemonkeymike What’s a good Linux distro for someone new to Linux?

                        fourmiune@mastodon.worldF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #19

                        @thegardendude @codemonkeymike ubuntu ... xubuntu ... lubuntu ... very easy

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                        • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                          For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                          ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                          This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

                          oz1sej@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #20

                          @codemonkeymike Sometimes I feel like I live in a bubble. I teach kids (12-20), and by far the most of them have never even heard of Linux. It's win or mac for them - there is no third option 😞

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                          • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                            For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                            ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                            This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

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                            #21

                            @codemonkeymike You know, the CUP or C.U.P. is a perfect name for the perversion of AI infested systems. Since they will be spying on you all day and all night.

                            #Blue #MicrosoftCUP #AppleCUP

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                            • vwestlife@mastodon.socialV vwestlife@mastodon.social

                              @codemonkeymike Older versions of Windows and Mac OS install on them anyway, too. (I'm typing this from a computer running Windows XP.)

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                              #22

                              @vwestlife @codemonkeymike

                              Older versions of Windows are not an option. Since they don't receive updates anymore, they are open barndoors for malware.

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                              • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                                For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                                ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                                This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

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                                #23

                                @codemonkeymike is this an example of "worse is better" ?

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                                  @codemonkeymike I need to learn about this

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                                  #24

                                  @andybrwn You can take a gander at https://distrosea.com/

                                  Also, you can stick a couple of Linux distros on a USB stick and run them straight from there. Unlike Windows, no installation needed until you are ready to commit to a distro.

                                  @codemonkeymike

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                                  • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                                    For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                                    ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                                    This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

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                                    #25

                                    @codemonkeymike thats why i switched and im so glad i did!

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                                    • thegardendude@regenerate.socialT thegardendude@regenerate.social

                                      @codemonkeymike What’s a good Linux distro for someone new to Linux?

                                      wmd@chaos.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #26

                                      @thegardendude @codemonkeymike depends a lot on where you come from, what you're used to. When we in office switched to linux for desktop >15 years ago, people came from xp, vista, windows 7 and ubuntu was at the time a fitting change. When ubuntu changed it was better to change to ubuntu-mate. In my experience, people mostly dislike change, so you want to find something that looks similar to them. The issues people had with UX change of windows 7 helped linux adoption...

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                                      • vwestlife@mastodon.socialV vwestlife@mastodon.social

                                        @codemonkeymike Older versions of Windows and Mac OS install on them anyway, too. (I'm typing this from a computer running Windows XP.)

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                                        #27

                                        @vwestlife @codemonkeymike I have tried that for my dad. Win 7 install worked fine, true, but then using it didn't... at all. Couldn't even get it to connect to WiFi and he works remotely, so he needs that. Maybe someone who's a computer person could have done it, but I'm not one, my dad even less so and can't afford to pay for that. So then Zorin OS it was. Everything I couldn't get working on Win 7 worked right out of the box. My dad has a working computer instead of a dead one.

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                                        • codemonkeymike@fosstodon.orgC codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org

                                          For many people, the #Linux vs #Windows vs #Mac debate is a privilege — it assumes you can choose. But working with the Computer Upcycle Project, I've seen the real choice is often Linux vs no computer at all.

                                          ~95% of donated computers are "too old" for Windows 11 or macOS. Linux installs on them anyway, adding 10+ years of life to machines #Microsoft and #Apple called trash.

                                          This isn't Linux vs Windows. It's Linux vs e-waste.

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                                          #28

                                          @codemonkeymike Upcycling computers is one of my big hobbies and that's usually how I get a computer.

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