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  • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

    This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

    Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

    An absurd design decision imo

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    #62

    @aesthr Given that MS Office products also still cannot open two files with the same name from different locations, I'm probably less surprised than I should be.

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    • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

      This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

      Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

      An absurd design decision imo

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      #63

      @aesthr Oh my, I was immediately thinking that cannot be true. So asked from better half (who uses MS Excel daily) and I didn't even had to finish the question to get answer "Yes and that is so infuriating! At least I have multiple monitors where I can spread the documents so probably notice that.."

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      • pmb00cs@mastodon.onlineP pmb00cs@mastodon.online

        @aesthr yeah, I'm not saying it's an uncommon usage pattern, or that I have all the answers. But you've got to admit that there are better tools than excel for handling data.

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        #64

        @pmb00cs sure, personally I use R for any data analysis, but that's really irrelevant when I'm in a low level job in an office where IT stuff is handled by an external service company and I can't install anything, and that's just the workplace reality for many people

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        • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

          This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

          Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

          An absurd design decision imo

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          #65

          @aesthr I've seen a lot of stupid shit when working in IT but this blows all that away. It's stupid stupid stupid

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          • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

            This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

            Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

            An absurd design decision imo

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            #66

            @aesthr I remember working in QA for Microsoft on MS project ages ago. We had to take direction from Office on features including the UI. I was testing undo redo in Project and logged bugs about it undoing things in other docs silently. I was told that's the way Office did it, so it was by design.

            I tried. I hate that design decision to this day.

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            • jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ jernej__s@infosec.exchange

              @Canageek @MatthewPCooke @aesthr All Office programs were MDI, but Excel was always special (the global Undo thing didn't apply to any other program, nor did a bunch of other things that Excel still does weirdly, especially when working with multiple documents).

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              #67

              @jernej__s @Canageek @aesthr to be fair, I have genuinely seen a lot of inter-document linking and data loading amongst finance teams where as word documents are usually separate. That might also go some way to explaining why word went SDI about 15 years before Excel…

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              • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                An absurd design decision imo

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                #68

                @aesthr

                yeah... with excel, UI/UX really stands for User Interface Universally eXcrement...

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                • tofticles@helvede.netT tofticles@helvede.net

                  @aesthr Gods. This explains -so- much.

                  I thought Excel was broken, somehow.. (well, it is, but that is beside -this- point). Who in their right mind ok'ed this..

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                  #69

                  @tofticles @aesthr It possibly made more sense back when it was an MDI application. Having GUIs make logical sense stopped being a design requirement around Windows 8 at the latest.

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                  • matoakit@beach.cityM matoakit@beach.city

                    @aesthr I use excel daily, and I hate this "Feature".

                    I only want to modify the excel in the active screen, if it does anything else it's wrong.

                    This site has some options for work arounds, but the best one the registry edit can't be done on corporate machines.
                    https://spreadsheetplanet.com/open-multiple-instances-excel/

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                    #70

                    @matoakit @aesthr Oh, I didn't know these, thanks!

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                    • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                      This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                      Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                      An absurd design decision imo

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                      #71

                      @aesthr Back in my Excel VBA programming days, it took me two weeks to realize that opening another workbook clears the clipboard. 🤦‍♂️

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                      • sablebadger@dice.campS sablebadger@dice.camp

                        @aesthr I remember working in QA for Microsoft on MS project ages ago. We had to take direction from Office on features including the UI. I was testing undo redo in Project and logged bugs about it undoing things in other docs silently. I was told that's the way Office did it, so it was by design.

                        I tried. I hate that design decision to this day.

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                        #72

                        @Sablebadger @aesthr Seems to be to break the "principle of least surprise." I always thought you needed a *really* good reason to do that.

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                        • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                          @tante welcome to my regular workday in a MS equipped office

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                          #73

                          @aesthr @tante fucking how? Oh, shit, they’re no longer individual process spaces after 365?

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                          • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                            This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                            Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                            An absurd design decision imo

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                            #74

                            @aesthr i have similar issues with undo in Logic Pro X. If i undo a recording, it also deletes the lyrics. It also sometimes does an undo as 2 things to be undone. Other times, like after a recording, it will not undo the recording, but undoes the thing that happened before the recording. I have had to unlearn my undo hand gestures. This was not a problem a few years ago by the way… but thanks to AI, it is now!

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                            • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                              This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                              Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                              An absurd design decision imo

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                              #75

                              @aesthr I seem to recall this isn't limited to Excel but every Office program combined since they started bundling them together in the 1990s.

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                              • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                                Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                                An absurd design decision imo

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                                #76

                                @aesthr utterly bonkers

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                                • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                                  @aesthr @tante fucking how? Oh, shit, they’re no longer individual process spaces after 365?

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                                  #77

                                  @c0dec0dec0de @aesthr @tante Sweet mother of mohair that's BAD. I just proved it to myself. How the FUCK did that get out the door?

                                  Word does NOT do this. What about Powerpoint? Nope, doesn't do it there either

                                  That's fucking insane.

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                                  • mhkohne@mastodon.socialM mhkohne@mastodon.social

                                    @c0dec0dec0de @aesthr @tante Sweet mother of mohair that's BAD. I just proved it to myself. How the FUCK did that get out the door?

                                    Word does NOT do this. What about Powerpoint? Nope, doesn't do it there either

                                    That's fucking insane.

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                                    #78

                                    @mhkohne @aesthr @tante you have to work to make that happen too

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                                    • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                      This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                                      Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                                      An absurd design decision imo

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                                      #79

                                      @aesthr Hahahaha, that's a laughably bad design decision but I cannot say I am at all surprised, because Excel, and M$.

                                      It reminds me of when Excel won't let me open a new document for no apparent reason, no warnings or anything, until I close the current document. Because random wtf.

                                      And people wonder why I curse all day while using Windows for work...

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                                      • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                                        @Sablebadger @aesthr Seems to be to break the "principle of least surprise." I always thought you needed a *really* good reason to do that.

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                                        #80

                                        @TimWardCam @aesthr the guys in Office were arrogant douchebags if I remember correctly. You DID NOT question them... Ever.

                                        I remember mixing it up with them a few times, and getting slapped down every time. Entitled tech bro bullshit.

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                                        • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                          This might be the funniest MS Office thing I have encountered yet:

                                          Excel has global undo/redo, so if you work on multiple files and hit undo a few times. it may change things in a different file. Good luck reconstructing that, if you don't immediately notice.

                                          An absurd design decision imo

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                                          #81

                                          @aesthr yes, I've noticed it at work, too! then promptly forgot about it in the bliss of using MS products...

                                          (at least the IT department listened to my desperate plea and removed or turned off everything copilot-related from my machine & license, so there's that)

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