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  • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

    That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

    Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

    https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

    #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

    finfangfoomed@mastodon.socialF mahryekuh@hachyderm.ioM pirategoddess@social.vivaldi.netP zdl@mstdn.socialZ stoori@polyglot.cityS 23 Replies Last reply
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    • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

      “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

      That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

      Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

      https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

      #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

      finfangfoomed@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
      finfangfoomed@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
      finfangfoomed@mastodon.social
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      #2

      @remixtures the stupid internet rotted part of my brain instantly thinks "are they doing this so they can get a data set to help their genAI get better at rendering hands?" 😅

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      • finfangfoomed@mastodon.socialF finfangfoomed@mastodon.social

        @remixtures the stupid internet rotted part of my brain instantly thinks "are they doing this so they can get a data set to help their genAI get better at rendering hands?" 😅

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        #3

        @FinFangFoomed @remixtures It’s not stupid or brainrot when there is a serious chance that your hunch is right.

        Just like all the street signs and other objects a self-driving car could come across, that we’ve been identifying for years.

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        • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

          “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

          That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

          Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

          https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

          #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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          #4

          @remixtures Man this reminds me of Dance Dance Authentication, except that I really don’t like what Google is planning here.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgC4b9K-gYU

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          • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

            “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

            That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

            Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

            https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

            #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

            pirategoddess@social.vivaldi.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @remixtures Well this sounds horrible

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            • mahryekuh@hachyderm.ioM mahryekuh@hachyderm.io

              @FinFangFoomed @remixtures It’s not stupid or brainrot when there is a serious chance that your hunch is right.

              Just like all the street signs and other objects a self-driving car could come across, that we’ve been identifying for years.

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              #6

              @mahryekuh @remixtures I can't help but also be reminded of their "free" 411 phone number lookup service they offered like 20 years ago. But at least back then they were pretty transparent that they were only offering the service so they could get data to train their voice recognition.

              It's just impossible for me to not jump to the most cynical outcome these days. It's exhausting 😮‍💨

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              • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                #7

                @remixtures Interesting.

                None of my computers has a camera. This is for reasons I hope are really fucking obvious.

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                • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                  “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                  That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                  Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                  https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                  #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                  #8

                  @remixtures so, do we need to have an inflated latex glove ready now to pass this without showing our actual hand

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                  • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                    “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                    That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                    Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                    https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                    #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                    #9

                    @remixtures Sometimes I forget to remove some Google from a new computer setup, and I run into Google's Captcha.

                    It serves as a good reminder to remove Google.

                    But I like to fill out a few puzzles wrong, first, as a treat.

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                    • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                      “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                      That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                      Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                      https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                      #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                      #10

                      @remixtures
                      Any website using it instantly looses a customer.
                      Forever.

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                      • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                        “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                        That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                        Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                        https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                        #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                        #11

                        @remixtures Seeing this circulate more, it occurs to me this is probably going to fuck anyone who happens to be an amputee, happen to have broken fingers or a broken wrist at the time, as well as the usual inaccuracies these systems have with PoC. Oh, and what do you wanna bet there's been so little accounting for women's hands that acrylics or just nail polish is going to fuck with this?

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                        • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                          “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                          That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                          Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                          https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                          #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

                          leighms@mastodonapp.ukL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @remixtures
                          This reeks of the sort of brain rot that has come to typify Google, and to be fair a large number of other developers.

                          Dudes sitting in a shiny bright office develop a widget and assume everyone else is in the same position as them. How will it work on a rainy night in Halifax? If the camera on the phone is faulty? If the person has limited mobility? If the computer does not have a camera?
                          So many scenarios where this will fall down.

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                          • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                            “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                            That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                            Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                            https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                            #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                            #13

                            @remixtures Yeah, that's a good way to make sure I don't signup or use a service at all.

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                            • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                              “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                              That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                              Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                              https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                              #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                              #14

                              @remixtures Whole Foods (Amazon) had palm readers to pay for purchases. They have removed them after about 2 years. My finger prints had a cop say “don’t touch anything”, $35 fine. Burnt 3 & cut one almost off, the nail flipped back to touch knuckle. My face is here & on driver’s license & passport. Several phone apps use Face ID. Wells Fargo wants to use it in bank as well.

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                              • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                                “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                                That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                                Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                                https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                                #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                                #15

                                @remixtures
                                I will immediately delete any account that requires this of me.

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                                • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                                  “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                                  That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                                  Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                                  https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                                  #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                                  #16

                                  @remixtures Would we even need the captcha stuff if Google just started leading the charge respecting robots.txt?

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                                  • alsvha@sunny.gardenA alsvha@sunny.garden

                                    @remixtures Yeah, that's a good way to make sure I don't signup or use a service at all.

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                                    #17

                                    @alsvha @remixtures

                                    This, exactly. How anyone is still using products from them is beyond me.

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                                    • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                                      “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                                      That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                                      Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                                      https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                                      #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                                      #18

                                      @remixtures

                                      Giggle wants to give online privacy a hand job.

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                                      • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                                        “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                                        That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                                        Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                                        https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                                        #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                                        #19

                                        @remixtures

                                        I will not comply.

                                        The internet really could have been a global space for communication and learning.

                                        The surveillance capitalism Google pioneered poisoned that hopeful vision for the internet, AI scrapers have decimated trust... and so Google's response is... more surveillance.!?

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                                        • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                                          “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                                          That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                                          Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                                          https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                                          #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                                          #20
                                          @remixtures

                                          Google is not your friend.
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