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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

    The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

    Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

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    #56

    @_elena In the name of @blogg I allergy sent them a open letter telling them how stupid this idea is. An I published it at the same blog. Sense it is the Swedish government authority, Integritetsskyddsmyndigheten, I did write it in Swedish.

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

      The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

      Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

      mapache@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #57

      @_elena buy domains and put your video. I can chip in!

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      • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

        @_elena Ok, now I'm intrigued and want to know the details 🙂 I just hate how this was branded as "European answer" by the press, like it would be official EU project - when it clearly was just attention grab by some limelight hungry random CEO. Luckily it doesn't seem to have had much news value (papers in Sweden didn't pick it up)

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        #58

        @0xtero there are allegedly links to the Swedish right (that would explain the requirement of IDs to post). Still researching the claims

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        • daniel@masto.art4.seD daniel@masto.art4.se

          @_elena In the name of @blogg I allergy sent them a open letter telling them how stupid this idea is. An I published it at the same blog. Sense it is the Swedish government authority, Integritetsskyddsmyndigheten, I did write it in Swedish.

          frebelt@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #59

          @daniel @_elena @blogg

          Hi Daniel, could you post a link to your blog article please? 🙏

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          • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

            @FrankauLux @_elena all they did was tap the EU for funding and they’re so cautious and clueless they backed it because they used the right buzzwords

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            #60

            @humanhorseshoes @FrankauLux @_elena

            Do you know if w received any eu funding?

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            • frebelt@mastodon.onlineF frebelt@mastodon.online

              @daniel @_elena @blogg

              Hi Daniel, could you post a link to your blog article please? 🙏

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              #61

              @frebelt @_elena @blogg https://www.linuxfika.se/
              But it is in swedish.

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              • daniel@masto.art4.seD daniel@masto.art4.se

                @frebelt @_elena @blogg https://www.linuxfika.se/
                But it is in swedish.

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                #62

                @daniel @_elena @blogg

                no problama - auto translation is my friend

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                • frebelt@mastodon.onlineF frebelt@mastodon.online

                  @daniel @_elena @blogg

                  no problama - auto translation is my friend

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                  #63

                  @frebelt @_elena @blogg then your very welcome. 😀

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                  • daniel@masto.art4.seD daniel@masto.art4.se

                    @frebelt @_elena @blogg then your very welcome. 😀

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                    #64

                    @frebelt @_elena @blogg if you have any questions I'm willing to answer them.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                      The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                      Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                      hashraydamon@me.dmH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #65

                      @_elena this map can help to make the case for the fediverse in Europe

                      https://toot.wales/@jaz/115938939835763217

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                        The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                        Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                        uriel@x.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #66

                        @_elena

                        Is not federating at all:

                        no activitypub.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                          The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                          Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                          brennpunktua@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #67

                          @_elena they didn't even remove the name "Bluesky" on various parts of the website 🤣🤣🤣

                          https://stage.wsocial.eu

                          #WSocial

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                          • vladcampos@mastodon.socialV vladcampos@mastodon.social

                            @_elena Honestly, I think that will only create a sense of division: "Mine is better than yours".

                            I don't believe that's what the world needs now. I think we need to try to find a common ground. For example, why did they choose the ATProto?

                            Although I would prefer them to have decided on ActivityPub, maybe they have a reason.

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                            #68

                            @vladcampos they didn't choose any protocol, they just designed a landing Page ... for ... Bluesky 🤣

                            https://stage.wsocial.eu

                            @_elena

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                            • odd@mstdn.socialO odd@mstdn.social

                              @_elena its probably better not to sabotage EU alternatives, but by grabbing domains the fediverse could be injected into the news cycle, if done with a coherent message to the media.

                              brennpunktua@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #69

                              @odd it's not actually an european alternative. It's Bluesky, literally 😅 https://stage.wsocial.eu

                              @_elena

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                              • brennpunktua@mastodon.socialB brennpunktua@mastodon.social

                                @_elena they didn't even remove the name "Bluesky" on various parts of the website 🤣🤣🤣

                                https://stage.wsocial.eu

                                #WSocial

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                                #70

                                @BrennpunktUA 😂 @_elena

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  @0xtero there are allegedly links to the Swedish right (that would explain the requirement of IDs to post). Still researching the claims

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                                  #71

                                  @_elena Had a quick look. Seems the domain is registered by a Swedish company WeDontHaveTime (who seems to run wedonthavetime.org). The company is owned by a foundation, so no idea who the real owner are (the foundation owns US based company of a same name as well). This guy is their CEO https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ - the company has 9 employees and revenue of 15-20 million SEK yearly (loses twice the revenue yearly -17M SEK in 2024).

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                                  • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

                                    @_elena Had a quick look. Seems the domain is registered by a Swedish company WeDontHaveTime (who seems to run wedonthavetime.org). The company is owned by a foundation, so no idea who the real owner are (the foundation owns US based company of a same name as well). This guy is their CEO https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ - the company has 9 employees and revenue of 15-20 million SEK yearly (loses twice the revenue yearly -17M SEK in 2024).

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                                    #72

                                    @_elena no idea if it's right-wing connected (wouldn't surprise me) and I can't be bothered to look further - it already looks like a rich-boy club scheme to make money out of activism. And I guess their headlines from Davos around this social network of theirs were formed similarly. Bleh.

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                                    • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

                                      @_elena Had a quick look. Seems the domain is registered by a Swedish company WeDontHaveTime (who seems to run wedonthavetime.org). The company is owned by a foundation, so no idea who the real owner are (the foundation owns US based company of a same name as well). This guy is their CEO https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ - the company has 9 employees and revenue of 15-20 million SEK yearly (loses twice the revenue yearly -17M SEK in 2024).

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                                      #73

                                      @0xtero thank you for the info! Yes I had seen the non-profit info but not the revenue. Wow.

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        @0xtero thank you for the info! Yes I had seen the non-profit info but not the revenue. Wow.

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                                        #74

                                        @_elena here's the company info (sorry, in Swedish) https://www.allabolag.se/foretag/wedonthavetime-ab-publ/stockholm/informationskonsulter-kommunikationskonsulter/2KGW5D6I5YFD4

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                                        • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

                                          @_elena here's the company info (sorry, in Swedish) https://www.allabolag.se/foretag/wedonthavetime-ab-publ/stockholm/informationskonsulter-kommunikationskonsulter/2KGW5D6I5YFD4

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                                          #75

                                          @0xtero thanks!!!

                                          can someone explain to me how is it possible to have such terrible profit margins but then "solidity = very good"?

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