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  3. We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

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  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

    @Mastodon This is a link to the server covenant:

    https://joinmastodon.org/covenant

    One important question – and one we’ve discussed together – is which definition of antisemitism are you going with? I’d appreciate it if you could state the decision you’ve reached on this publicly. Crucially, is it one that conflates opposition to Zionism, Israel, and the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people with being bigoted against Jewish people or not? This is key in knowing whether only Zionist, pro-Israel, pro-genocide Mastodon servers will be featured in recommendations or not.

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    #36

    @aral

    I feel like by asking this question you're — inadvertently — legitimizing zionism by implying that the conflation of antisemitism with antizionism is a credible definition of that word.

    Personally, I assume that antisemitism means antisemitism unless I have reason to believe otherwise.

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    • octaviaconamore@cutie.cityO octaviaconamore@cutie.city

      @Mastodon do you mean entirely open sign-ups (i.e. prone to spam accounts) or accepting sign-ups that get manually approved by a human?

      haubles@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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      #37

      @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon

      For this experiment, that is correct. We are looking to partner with servers that have open sign-ups. But we've heard the feedback that spam is going to be a big issue for many servers to participate, so our team is going to discuss what we can do about that next week.

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      • potatoes_fall@miscreants.partyP potatoes_fall@miscreants.party

        @aral

        I feel like by asking this question you're — inadvertently — legitimizing zionism by implying that the conflation of antisemitism with antizionism is a credible definition of that word.

        Personally, I assume that antisemitism means antisemitism unless I have reason to believe otherwise.

        aral@mastodon.ar.alA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #38

        @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

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        • sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS sunnythesheep@mastodon.social

          @Mastodon ideally combined with personal interests, right? (as long as there are enough servers to choose from) 😎🌈👩‍💻🌳

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          #39

          @sunnythesheep @Mastodon for this experiment we are looking to partner with general-purpose servers. But this is just one experiment, not the only experiment! We’ll be looking at how we can help with special-interest server discovery soon.

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          • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

            The Default Server Recommendations experiment is a first step in reimagining how Mastodon onboarding & server discovery work.

            Our team’s intent is to work with the community to build new onboarding pathways that support the entire network.

            We can’t wait to get started 💜

            6/6

            sam@break3.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #40

            @Mastodon It's amazing seeing these sorts of things play out across the Fediverse. Making sure we make a better internet that is centered around Privacy and staying decentralized for all.

            Keep up the good work and can't wait to see where we all are in several years to come.

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            • rzeta0@mathstodon.xyzR rzeta0@mathstodon.xyz

              @Mastodon

              you might also wish to ask the user about legal jurisdiction

              the German and similar jurisdictions can be unreasonably and surprisingly problematic

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              #41

              @rzeta0 @Mastodon What do you mean? The idea would be to give people a server that is in the area they are living. If you live in Germany you have apply to it's legal jurisdiction.

              But I don't really see how German law is particular more / less problematic when choosing a mastodon server.

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              • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                1/6

                finchhaven@sfba.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #42

                @Mastodon

                "We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start."

                And here is the core symptom of the core problem itself:

                You're pointing the question and its solution right back at the Deathstar Mothership itself: @Mastodon dot Social

                Sort of a recursive, self-fulfilling loop, no?

                But not the least bit surprising

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                • admin@mastodon-belgium.beA admin@mastodon-belgium.be

                  @Mastodon
                  Interesting experiment!
                  Before I fill in the form:
                  Is there anything in particular that should be done or followed-up server/admin side for this?

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                  #43

                  @admin @Mastodon hey! The only thing to do for now is make sure you’re meeting these eligibility requirements:

                  - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                  - Agree to the Server Covenant
                  - Have existed for 1+ year
                  - Have shut-down & disaster plans

                  Besides that, stay tuned!

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                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                    @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

                    rzeta0@mathstodon.xyzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #44

                    @aral @potatoes_fall

                    Yes 100%, this issue has been troublesome in reality, not just theoretically

                    I wonder if users should be prompted so they are placed in a suitable jurisdiction?

                    And majority of users would be unaware of this issue, so a positive outcome is them becoming aware.

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                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                      @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

                      aral@mastodon.ar.alA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #45

                      @potatoes_fall Also see this follow-up: https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/115989944734933868

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                      • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                        Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

                        - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                        - Agree to the Server Covenant
                        - Have existed for 1+ year
                        - Have shut-down & disaster plans

                        4/6

                        sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #46

                        @mainz_sozial_digital @system @allmaechd @nrw.social @bawue.social @berlin.social @norden.social @sueden.social @bonndigital

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                        • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                          If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out the form that this QR code points too.

                          (sorry it’s in Google docs)

                          https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

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                          kiloku@burnthis.townK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #47

                          @Mastodon we could deal with the form being on Google, but it requires a Google account to fill it, which our instance admin doesn't have. I'm pretty sure this is configurable

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                          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                            @Mastodon This is a link to the server covenant:

                            https://joinmastodon.org/covenant

                            One important question – and one we’ve discussed together – is which definition of antisemitism are you going with? I’d appreciate it if you could state the decision you’ve reached on this publicly. Crucially, is it one that conflates opposition to Zionism, Israel, and the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people with being bigoted against Jewish people or not? This is key in knowing whether only Zionist, pro-Israel, pro-genocide Mastodon servers will be featured in recommendations or not.

                            sunnythesheep@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #48

                            @aral 🙄🙄🙄

                            @Mastodon

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                            • potatoes_fall@miscreants.partyP potatoes_fall@miscreants.party

                              @Mastodon

                              @mainz_sozial_digital könnte interessant sein?

                              mainz_sozial_digital@mainz.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #49

                              @potatoes_fall @Mastodon

                              Danke! Haben Interesse bekundet.

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                              • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

                                - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                                - Agree to the Server Covenant
                                - Have existed for 1+ year
                                - Have shut-down & disaster plans

                                4/6

                                andrewblasco@masto.esA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #50

                                @Mastodon Igual esto le interesa a @rober para añadir a Masto punto es

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                                • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                  We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                                  Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                                  1/6

                                  renwillis@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #51

                                  @Mastodon Awesome! The other issue is “filling up the feed”, right? Bluesky’s feeds to follow are nice, but we got hashtags here. Maybe when people sign up, you also give them a nice (and attractively presented) list of hashtags to follow???

                                  LEAN IN on that old school spirit and people feeds will fill up right away!!!

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                                  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                    @Mastodon send!

                                    ben@shit.herewegoaga.inB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #52

                                    @stux I bet they were just waiting for you haha

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                                    • mastodon@mastodon.socialM mastodon@mastodon.social

                                      The Default Server Recommendations experiment is a first step in reimagining how Mastodon onboarding & server discovery work.

                                      Our team’s intent is to work with the community to build new onboarding pathways that support the entire network.

                                      We can’t wait to get started 💜

                                      6/6

                                      andrewblasco@masto.esA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #53

                                      @Mastodon It sounds really good, especially to avoid overcrowd Mastodon official servers and strengthen the Fediverse philosophy!

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                                      • sebzuen@toot.communityS sebzuen@toot.community

                                        @Mastodon
                                        Cool that you crowdsource.
                                        But no need to use g forms and then apologize for it.
                                        I like to use https://framaforms.org/

                                        simzie@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #54

                                        @sebzuen @Mastodon

                                        Yeah! Merci! Das hab ich schon lange gesucht.

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                                        • simzie@social.tchncs.deS simzie@social.tchncs.de

                                          @sebzuen @Mastodon

                                          Yeah! Merci! Das hab ich schon lange gesucht.

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                                          #55

                                          @simzie Cool! Ich benutze bisher die main instance komplett auf französisch, was eine nette challenge ist – vlt. ist framaforms selfhostable?!
                                          Aber ich sehe du sprichst FR, dann sollte das für dich ja kein problem sein ◡̈

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