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Two Danish girls arrested for 3 days by #ICE because they (supposedly) were planning to violate ESTA rules.

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  • andrzejwasowski@social.itu.dkA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Two Danish girls arrested for 3 days by #ICE because they (supposedly) were planning to violate ESTA rules. Article in Danish: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/udland/droemmerejsen-endte-som-mareridt-unge-danskere-naegtet-indrejse-og-faengslet-i-usa

    Apparently, volunteering is also seen as actual work and requires a visa now. Fair enough. But then I will not risk that a border officer decides attending a scientific conference or meeting with a researcher at an American university is work, requires a visa, and is a sufficiently good reason to handcuff and detain me. Not going.

    #NotGoingUSA

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    • andrzejwasowski@social.itu.dkA andrzejwasowski@social.itu.dk

      Two Danish girls arrested for 3 days by #ICE because they (supposedly) were planning to violate ESTA rules. Article in Danish: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/udland/droemmerejsen-endte-som-mareridt-unge-danskere-naegtet-indrejse-og-faengslet-i-usa

      Apparently, volunteering is also seen as actual work and requires a visa now. Fair enough. But then I will not risk that a border officer decides attending a scientific conference or meeting with a researcher at an American university is work, requires a visa, and is a sufficiently good reason to handcuff and detain me. Not going.

      #NotGoingUSA

      andrzejwasowski@social.itu.dkA This user is from outside of this forum
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      For the record: Personally, I am convinced that attending a conference and a research visit *are* actual work.

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        For the record: Personally, I am convinced that attending a conference and a research visit *are* actual work.

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        @AndrzejWasowski er used to be able to get a WB stamp. I always said that I was going for work when attending conferences. But maybe that differs from volunteering. I’m also not going. But here’s the website re: WB. https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary-visitors-for-business/wb-temporary-business-visitor-under-visa-waiver-program

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        • andrzejwasowski@social.itu.dkA andrzejwasowski@social.itu.dk

          Two Danish girls arrested for 3 days by #ICE because they (supposedly) were planning to violate ESTA rules. Article in Danish: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/udland/droemmerejsen-endte-som-mareridt-unge-danskere-naegtet-indrejse-og-faengslet-i-usa

          Apparently, volunteering is also seen as actual work and requires a visa now. Fair enough. But then I will not risk that a border officer decides attending a scientific conference or meeting with a researcher at an American university is work, requires a visa, and is a sufficiently good reason to handcuff and detain me. Not going.

          #NotGoingUSA

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          @AndrzejWasowski for me, the primary reason to not go to the US is not safety but principle. I will not support a fascist regime by normalizing it. And I would be normalizing it if I continued to come for teaching and research purposes, as I have done for years.
          The lack of safety simply confirms that my decision was the right one.

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