If you live outside of the United States,do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?
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Degoogled my life years ago.
The only Microsoft product I use is Flight SIM 2020, which can also work in offline mode.
Windows 10, hasn't had updates in almost a year, it's stable. No OneDrive, no Spotlight, no updates that screw things up on a weekly basis.
My other computer will be moved to BSD because Linux updates crap the bed, and no distro properly supports dual GPUs any more (they did - with some command-line magic, 15 years ago, but not any more). Makes sense since Red Hat is owned by IBM.
Other things - keep a year's supply of some essential nonperishable food on hand, keep a decent amount of cash on hand, keep a physical chequing account at a local bank and a supply of physical cheques. Because right of now the US is not above attacking Canada's banking and internet systems.
@barbra @Em0nM4stodon So, Windows 10 is not a Microsoft product?
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@barbra @Em0nM4stodon So, Windows 10 is not a Microsoft product?
No longer under Microsoft control, so no. All of us who refused the poison-pull offer of a year's free extended support are now independent of Microsoft. They can't cut off our support since we already cut the cord.
So no worry about a malicious update that "accidentally" breaks things.
Besides, moving to X-Plane when I have the time. Runs on many different systems.
Additional little known fact - Canadian copyright law allows for ignoring copyright when a product goes out of support and breaks. Other countries have similar rules - just not the US.
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon Same if you're a company/organization in the USA that might get accused of something like 'harboring terrorists'.
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@Em0nM4stodon Indeed - https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/you-can-no-longer-base-your-government-and-society-on-us-clouds/ discusses this at length. And yet...
@bert_hubert @Em0nM4stodon it was never safe to begin with. Trump is doing us a favor by making this impossible to ignore, just as he has inadvertently become the greatest salesman for EVs.
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon Individuals may be savvy enough to have disconnected, but our major institutions and corporations have not.
I’m not sure the tech bros would allow it, thought. They vacuum a lot of money from us.
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon at @squads we are prepared, but it would still hurt badly. Some of our customers would be dead in weeks.
Most people I spoke with about this risk don't see the merit of investing in a (from some perspectives) inferior backup solution that is never used and their people aren't trained on.
It's like watching a slow motion disaster, but my sales skills are not enough to convince them to invest in mitigation. Hard to explain, because running a nextcloud instance that backs up a us cloud is really not that expensive. It's another story if you're fully locked into the likes of aws, Azure, Salesforce of course.
That said, I also believe that it wouldn't be so easy for the regime to block whole countries. I expect them to target individual accounts like they did with ICC.
Oh well, we can do the disaster recovery for those that survive such an attack I guess
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon my ircd is ready and waiting for when teams goes offline (again)
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@Em0nM4stodon Nobody in the US is that stupid, right? Right?
@khleedril @Em0nM4stodon i’m sorry but I’m not counting on that.
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@Em0nM4stodon oh dw the country runs on almost exclusively pirated copies of windows and ms office, the us govt won't be able to do anything about that /hj
@lina @Em0nM4stodon they can shut down all services including Security updates.
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon I personally would feel no effects other than my Android phone not having access to Google services.
I host my own email, my own chat server, my own videoconferencing software, and so on. I rely on nothing from Amazon or Microsoft and only non-critical things from Google.
But you are right. Almost everyone else in my country would be in big trouble, and in the end, I would be too because I do rely on stores, hospitals, etc.
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon
Thanks i was looking for more things to worry about -
@Em0nM4stodon I personally would feel no effects other than my Android phone not having access to Google services.
I host my own email, my own chat server, my own videoconferencing software, and so on. I rely on nothing from Amazon or Microsoft and only non-critical things from Google.
But you are right. Almost everyone else in my country would be in big trouble, and in the end, I would be too because I do rely on stores, hospitals, etc.
@dfs_comedy @Em0nM4stodon Does your bank? Your local grocer? You may be shielded from direct effects, but it almost certainly would affect you in unexpected indirect ways. -
If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon here’s a complete and comprehensive list for those who are migrating to open source software to become digitally sovereign. Please do check out the whole website, it will be worth your time!
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?I wrote to my MP (UK) about this. I didn't get a sensible reply
- My former employer ran MS servers. They would grind to a halt
- Some UK hospitals were still using Windows XP - dead in the water
- Emergency services and banks - don't knowThe whole country would be screwed
You can also add the threat to close payment services like Visa, Mastercard and Paypal.
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?
i can't imagine this US govt would do that for the simple fact all those companies are currently bribing Dotard Tumor. if it happened, i'd assume it was a grift by Dotard to extract more bribes from them to turn it back onit would greatly affect clients
personally:
i use a degoogled Fairphone
using LibreOffice for decades
shopping for a Linux 2in1 laptop to fully ditch microsoft
use Signal for video & most comms now
switched to Proton mail
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon Say it with me now:
The cloud is someone else's computer.
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon lol and here i am working out what to do when the power and internet are cut
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon I brought this issue up at our yearly company council conference. My concerns were more or less brushed aside. "We can't move that many people to a different operating system", they said. "Our servers are safe", they said.
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon @blotosmetek We're as prepared as the US is for China cutting off access to the products they manufacture. Or, in fact, as prepared as we are for that eventuality ourselves. There's a similar situation with Taiwan and chips, or the Netherlands and chipmaking machines. This is probably number 30 on our priority list right now.
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If you live outside of the United States,
do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?What would happen to your work?
What would happen to your hospitals?
What would happen to your emergency services?
What would happen to your banks?
Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.
What would happen?
Is your country prepared?@Em0nM4stodon We (the UK) would be fucked.
