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  3. If you live outside of the United States,do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

If you live outside of the United States,do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    If you live outside of the United States,
    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

    What would happen to your work?

    What would happen to your hospitals?

    What would happen to your emergency services?

    What would happen to your banks?

    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

    What would happen?
    Is your country prepared?

    #DataSovereignty

    catdragon@mastodon.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
    catdragon@mastodon.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
    catdragon@mastodon.world
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #51

    @Em0nM4stodon as though the techlogarchs would stop the cash flowing in for a day.

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    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

      If you live outside of the United States,
      do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

      What would happen to your work?

      What would happen to your hospitals?

      What would happen to your emergency services?

      What would happen to your banks?

      Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

      What would happen?
      Is your country prepared?

      #DataSovereignty

      timwardcam@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
      timwardcam@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
      timwardcam@c.im
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #52

      @Em0nM4stodon You could have included Visa and Mastercard.

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      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

        If you live outside of the United States,
        do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

        What would happen to your work?

        What would happen to your hospitals?

        What would happen to your emergency services?

        What would happen to your banks?

        Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

        What would happen?
        Is your country prepared?

        #DataSovereignty

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        da_kink@defcon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #53

        @Em0nM4stodon I cant roll out software quickly, but in terms of files I'd be alright.

        The big problem would be SSO things, those are based on Intune and I don't know how quick I could spin up a different solution and get all programs changed that are SaaS and as such not administrated by ourselves.

        Our primary care process could continue, but support would be flying blind.

        Annoyingly, this is one of the DR scenarios we've been considering but so far the only real outcome to negate is "everything needs to be selfhosted and split between two datacenters"

        As for endpoints, it would be a disaster for around 25% of employees. Most of our primary process uses ipads and webbased software. But the rest live in outlook of course.

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          If you live outside of the United States,
          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

          What would happen to your work?

          What would happen to your hospitals?

          What would happen to your emergency services?

          What would happen to your banks?

          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

          What would happen?
          Is your country prepared?

          #DataSovereignty

          carmenlisandrette@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
          carmenlisandrette@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
          carmenlisandrette@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #54

          @Em0nM4stodon

          NZ here. lol no.

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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            If you live outside of the United States,
            do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

            What would happen to your work?

            What would happen to your hospitals?

            What would happen to your emergency services?

            What would happen to your banks?

            Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

            What would happen?
            Is your country prepared?

            #DataSovereignty

            mwt@mastodon.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
            mwt@mastodon.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
            mwt@mastodon.nz
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #55

            @Em0nM4stodon nope, we are so guzzling the Microsoft/AWS koolaid here that we'd definitely grind to a halt. Might be why our current government is kowtowing to the US government and trying to turn us into a mini-US.

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            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

              If you live outside of the United States,
              do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

              What would happen to your work?

              What would happen to your hospitals?

              What would happen to your emergency services?

              What would happen to your banks?

              Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

              What would happen?
              Is your country prepared?

              #DataSovereignty

              javensbukan@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
              javensbukan@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
              javensbukan@cosocial.ca
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #56

              @Em0nM4stodon Work in a Hospital in Canada supporting the IT infrastructure - and yeah, we do!

              We have an offline physical PC preloaded with PDFs connected to USB printers available at all units in case the main EMR were to somehow spectacularly explode or all internet is lost - they'd revert to paper charting and bust out their pre made downtime kits with workflow instructions.

              All units also have 'red phones' using dedicated copper circuits incase cellular or the main digital PBXes fail. 😅

              javensbukan@cosocial.caJ em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE mcnado@mstdn.socialM 3 Replies Last reply
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              • blotosmetek@circumstances.runB blotosmetek@circumstances.run

                @barbra @Em0nM4stodon So, Windows 10 is not a Microsoft product?

                mwt@mastodon.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                mwt@mastodon.nz
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #57

                @blotosmetek @barbra @Em0nM4stodon I have a mini-computer that was Windows 2000 when I got it. It has never seen the internet and (as long as I'm in charge of it) never will. My spouse updated it to XP a few years ago, I don't think it improved anything. I use it to play one very old Windows only computer game.

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                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                  If you live outside of the United States,
                  do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                  What would happen to your work?

                  What would happen to your hospitals?

                  What would happen to your emergency services?

                  What would happen to your banks?

                  Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                  What would happen?
                  Is your country prepared?

                  #DataSovereignty

                  canleaf@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                  canleaf@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                  canleaf@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #58

                  @Em0nM4stodon we would be fucked.

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    If you live outside of the United States,
                    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                    What would happen to your work?

                    What would happen to your hospitals?

                    What would happen to your emergency services?

                    What would happen to your banks?

                    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                    What would happen?
                    Is your country prepared?

                    #DataSovereignty

                    jorgecandeias@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    jorgecandeias@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    jorgecandeias@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #59

                    @Em0nM4stodon My country's government included until recently a guy that came straight out of Microsoft and who only left to become mayor of the second largest city in the country.

                    That ought to tell you all you need to know about that.

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      If you live outside of the United States,
                      do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                      What would happen to your work?

                      What would happen to your hospitals?

                      What would happen to your emergency services?

                      What would happen to your banks?

                      Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                      What would happen?
                      Is your country prepared?

                      #DataSovereignty

                      gpshewan@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                      gpshewan@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                      gpshewan@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #60

                      @Em0nM4stodon I’ve asked that question for about a year, always met with blank stares. Same stare we used to get running pandemic scenarios for BCP work

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                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                        If you live outside of the United States,
                        do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                        What would happen to your work?

                        What would happen to your hospitals?

                        What would happen to your emergency services?

                        What would happen to your banks?

                        Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                        What would happen?
                        Is your country prepared?

                        #DataSovereignty

                        geraintllanfrancheta@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
                        geraintllanfrancheta@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
                        geraintllanfrancheta@hachyderm.io
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #61

                        @Em0nM4stodon "dont look up". Businesses give usually a shit. Stupid. Sadly the "Best Practices" how to do it are #fuckrussia and #evilchina

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                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                          If you live outside of the United States,
                          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                          What would happen to your work?

                          What would happen to your hospitals?

                          What would happen to your emergency services?

                          What would happen to your banks?

                          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                          What would happen?
                          Is your country prepared?

                          #DataSovereignty

                          jameshowell@fediscience.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jameshowell@fediscience.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jameshowell@fediscience.org
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #62

                          @Em0nM4stodon

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                          • javensbukan@cosocial.caJ javensbukan@cosocial.ca

                            @Em0nM4stodon Work in a Hospital in Canada supporting the IT infrastructure - and yeah, we do!

                            We have an offline physical PC preloaded with PDFs connected to USB printers available at all units in case the main EMR were to somehow spectacularly explode or all internet is lost - they'd revert to paper charting and bust out their pre made downtime kits with workflow instructions.

                            All units also have 'red phones' using dedicated copper circuits incase cellular or the main digital PBXes fail. 😅

                            javensbukan@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            javensbukan@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            javensbukan@cosocial.ca
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #63

                            @Em0nM4stodon All units also have at least one Analog fax on standby (integrated into an MFP) for document flow in case the EMR dies for forwarding reqs and orders.

                            It would suuuuuck, but that's what they used before the new system, so not end of world (slow though).

                            They wouldn't have access to records though which would suck, but they'd be able to record that information based on physical tracking boards still used in most units.

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                            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                              If you live outside of the United States,
                              do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                              What would happen to your work?

                              What would happen to your hospitals?

                              What would happen to your emergency services?

                              What would happen to your banks?

                              Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                              What would happen?
                              Is your country prepared?

                              #DataSovereignty

                              hunteranton@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                              hunteranton@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                              hunteranton@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #64

                              @Em0nM4stodon no, they do not.

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                              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                If you live outside of the United States,
                                do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                What would happen to your work?

                                What would happen to your hospitals?

                                What would happen to your emergency services?

                                What would happen to your banks?

                                Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                What would happen?
                                Is your country prepared?

                                #DataSovereignty

                                holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH This user is from outside of this forum
                                holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH This user is from outside of this forum
                                holliek72@mastodonapp.uk
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #65

                                @Em0nM4stodon A plan? Don't be ridiculous!

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                                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                  If you live outside of the United States,
                                  do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                  What would happen to your work?

                                  What would happen to your hospitals?

                                  What would happen to your emergency services?

                                  What would happen to your banks?

                                  Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                  What would happen?
                                  Is your country prepared?

                                  #DataSovereignty

                                  argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #66

                                  @Em0nM4stodon

                                  The EU's next-generation digital ID system requires a genuine unmodified phone from a US manufacturer.

                                  That entire continent would get a surprised look on its face and fall off the bottom of the screen. Doo-doot doot doot doo-doo-doo-doo doo-doot. Game over.

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                                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                    If you live outside of the United States,
                                    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                    What would happen to your work?

                                    What would happen to your hospitals?

                                    What would happen to your emergency services?

                                    What would happen to your banks?

                                    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                    What would happen?
                                    Is your country prepared?

                                    #DataSovereignty

                                    paxil@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                    paxil@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                    paxil@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #67

                                    @Em0nM4stodon #China can supply all those probably at less cost. Didi is more popular than Uber in Mexico.

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                                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                      If you live outside of the United States,
                                      do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                      What would happen to your work?

                                      What would happen to your hospitals?

                                      What would happen to your emergency services?

                                      What would happen to your banks?

                                      Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                      What would happen?
                                      Is your country prepared?

                                      #DataSovereignty

                                      dside@mastodon.mlD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      dside@mastodon.mlD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      dside@mastodon.ml
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #68

                                      @Em0nM4stodon Russia here. To summarize, probably more than most. Heck, a lot of it was cut from within already.
                                      ISPs are already legally forced to install govt traffic filters and most recently globally trusted CAs stopped issuing certificates for local banks, forcing them to transition to certs issued by the govt's CA – the roots of which are installed manually or available preinstalled in Yandex Browser; there are no mandates to do either, but people prefer their online banking to be accessible.

                                      Visa and MasterCard left in 2022, local MIR and SBP handle electronic payments, major socials have been banned before with citizenry being herded towards govt-affiliated platforms VK and MAX, hounded by incessant ads and competitors not working (inaccessible servers).

                                      Businesses can subsist on pirated software and some local alternatives.

                                      Overall, this disentanglement from the rest of the world is one of many things that made the incursion in 2022 possible. So… mixed feelings about this.

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                                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                        If you live outside of the United States,
                                        do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                        What would happen to your work?

                                        What would happen to your hospitals?

                                        What would happen to your emergency services?

                                        What would happen to your banks?

                                        Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                        What would happen?
                                        Is your country prepared?

                                        #DataSovereignty

                                        cafeinux@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        cafeinux@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        cafeinux@infosec.exchange
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #69

                                        @Em0nM4stodon
                                        My company would literally stop working, as we're going all in in Microsoft services.
                                        And I'd be standing there, pointing at the COO, laughing like Nelson Muntz, and saying "I told you".

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                                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                          If you live outside of the United States,
                                          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                          What would happen to your work?

                                          What would happen to your hospitals?

                                          What would happen to your emergency services?

                                          What would happen to your banks?

                                          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                          What would happen?
                                          Is your country prepared?

                                          #DataSovereignty

                                          mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          mensrea@freeradical.zone
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #70

                                          @Em0nM4stodon i believe the term you are looking for is "unmitigated disaster". hell, our city website is sharepoint

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