Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft Seems to me it wouldn't be included because it doesn't pertain (and couldn't) to the company's business.
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft No. (Not legal advice, but come on!)
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft Well, that depends on where you live, I suppose? Laws differ by country, but I'm guessing this doesn't fly legally in most western countries, at least.
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@nixCraft No. (Not legal advice, but come on!)
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft we truly live in the worst timeline
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft Just crazy! I would call that stealing.
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
I worked briefly for a startup that had a clause that would give them IP over all "inventions" I made in my private life during the time of employment. I signed anyway, because (German) courts had already declared clauses like this null and void. Business idiots gotta idiot. But even they had enough common sense to not demand stuff before my time at their company.
The more interesting question is: what if you refuse to sign? BTW, the answers on Reddit look kind of decent.
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft this sounds kinda crazy.
Flip it the other way - would it be sane and legal to claim ownership of anything you make AFTER you leave a corpo?
I mean...what the heck??
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft He should ask a lawyer, not reddit.
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft DeTeWe Shipton Communications tried that on me in 1994 after I'd been working there for 3 years, retrospective IP rights. Unsurprisingly I walked
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft they can ask for whatever they want.
It's our job to say no.
I have had many high-level jobs and always negotiated my IP agreements.
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
Tell them to fuck off and find a new job.
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft That's batshit insane.
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft very risky and obvious
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft surprised no lawyers have weighted in, as written wouldn't this also be an attempt to claim ownership for work done for previous employers?
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Employer wants me to sign an IP agreement saying they own software I wrote two years before I started working there
Can your employer force you to hand over open source software you created before they hired you?
@nixCraft open source licenses are joint licenses, so one can "hand over", yet that has no effect on anyone else. What they want is ownership over any future contribution, and since those have to comply with the license. That's a reason the GPL was created in the 1980s.
