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#WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

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  • altim@mastodon.nlA altim@mastodon.nl

    @_elena Sovereignty washing

    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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    _elena@mastodon.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #27

    @altim open-washing, sovereignty-washing, Euro-washing... they should open a chain of laundromats 😆

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

      European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

      🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

      I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

      #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

      streetcoder@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      streetcoder@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #28

      @_elena OK, we should send some letters and organise some public "demonstration" to show that we already have a much better alternative in place.

      Otherwise she and the other politicians will never know that the Fediverse is already relevant and is much more democratic and digitally independent than Bluesky/W Social could ever be.

      Or maybe they already know and it's all due to lobby, but than it would be even more important.

      phf@dmv.communityP kichae@wanderingadventure.partyK 2 Replies Last reply
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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Latest SCOOP on #WSocial:

        The European Commission Spokesperson for tech sovereignty Thomas Reigner just migrated his ATproto account from Bluesky (open source) to W Social (closed-source). How ironic!

        🔗 : https://clearsky.app/thomasregnier.ec.europa.eu/profile

        And now excuse me as I go pick up my child from daycare. I'll be intermittently online for the rest of the day. Thank you for all your boosts and comments!

        #DigitalSovereignty #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

        mactunag@gts.eunach.scotM This user is from outside of this forum
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        mactunag@gts.eunach.scot
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #29

        @_elena Why not eurosky? Bonkers

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Latest SCOOP on #WSocial:

          The European Commission Spokesperson for tech sovereignty Thomas Reigner just migrated his ATproto account from Bluesky (open source) to W Social (closed-source). How ironic!

          🔗 : https://clearsky.app/thomasregnier.ec.europa.eu/profile

          And now excuse me as I go pick up my child from daycare. I'll be intermittently online for the rest of the day. Thank you for all your boosts and comments!

          #DigitalSovereignty #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

          smallcircles@social.coopS This user is from outside of this forum
          smallcircles@social.coopS This user is from outside of this forum
          smallcircles@social.coop
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #30

          @_elena @aral @EUCommission

          Unbelievable, and really disheartening. What a farce. I just commented yesterday that "sovereignty" had become this new fad, a business buzzword to indicate where the low-hanging revenue is for the big enterprises, like earlier the hollow phrase of "digital transformation" (digital transformation for the purpose of what?). This more anecdotal proof that this is indeed the case..

          https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116759881586257835

          frumble@chaos.socialF 1 Reply Last reply
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          • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

            @Razemix @sanzky Likely not a direct cut, but a sense of opportunity. As @_elena said: mandatory ID checks.

            Helps quell dissent against authoritarianism.

            ikuturso@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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            ikuturso@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #31

            @Mabande I think it's more just being clueless and wsocial being very well politically connected so they are able to convince these politicians to do this. It was evident this was their stategy from day one with the announcement at Davos etc. but I wouldn't necessarily have bet on them being this successful with it.

            Ultimately this might still not mean that much though.

            @Razemix @sanzky @_elena

            frumble@chaos.socialF hiphopheaven@mastodon.socialH eestileib@tech.lgbtE 3 Replies Last reply
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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

              European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

              🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

              I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

              #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

              hwll@sunny.gardenH This user is from outside of this forum
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              hwll@sunny.garden
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #32

              @_elena please, my European friends, you mustn't comply.

              f4grx@chaos.socialF 1 Reply Last reply
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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Latest SCOOP on #WSocial:

                The European Commission Spokesperson for tech sovereignty Thomas Reigner just migrated his ATproto account from Bluesky (open source) to W Social (closed-source). How ironic!

                🔗 : https://clearsky.app/thomasregnier.ec.europa.eu/profile

                And now excuse me as I go pick up my child from daycare. I'll be intermittently online for the rest of the day. Thank you for all your boosts and comments!

                #DigitalSovereignty #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

                B This user is from outside of this forum
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                baalroga@piaille.fr
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #33

                @_elena for fuck sake they won't ever learn!

                Yesterday, I watched this video https://videos.assemblee-nationale.fr/video.18843051_69fb3ac192f70.vulnerabilites-systemiques-dans-le-secteur-du-numerique--table-ronde-sur-le-logiciel-libre-6-mai-2026 with @renchap where he explained how public administrations just want an access to the service, not operate it and it grinds my gear so fuckin much

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                  This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                  My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                  🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                  #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

                  feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #34

                  @_elena @EUCommission @aral W Social has all the checkmarks for a scam to collect public funding...

                  Please use the money to found open source project that actually do work for all europeans (and humanity in general).

                  _elena@mastodon.social_ ohir@social.vivaldi.netO 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • sanzky@masto.esS sanzky@masto.es

                    @_elena she must be getting a cut or something, right?

                    derzeitreiser@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    derzeitreiser@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #35

                    @sanzky @_elena It's Ursula von der Leyen. Here in Germany, she epitomizes - perhaps more than anyone else - a combination of corruption and utter incompetence.
                    She has never won a single popular vote anywhere - quite the opposite: she lost constituencies that had previously been considered safe seats for her party - and has built her entire career exclusively on her corrupt networks, while scandals would always catch up with her just in the nick of time, before she was promoted to the next post

                    juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ harib_murshidi@mastodon.socialH 2 Replies Last reply
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                    • strit@mastodon.socialS strit@mastodon.social shared this topic
                    • hwll@sunny.gardenH hwll@sunny.garden

                      @_elena please, my European friends, you mustn't comply.

                      f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      f4grx@chaos.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #36

                      @hwll @_elena comply with what? A new twitter appears. Oh ok. Anyways.

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                      • ikuturso@mastodon.socialI ikuturso@mastodon.social

                        @Mabande I think it's more just being clueless and wsocial being very well politically connected so they are able to convince these politicians to do this. It was evident this was their stategy from day one with the announcement at Davos etc. but I wouldn't necessarily have bet on them being this successful with it.

                        Ultimately this might still not mean that much though.

                        @Razemix @sanzky @_elena

                        frumble@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        frumble@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        frumble@chaos.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #37

                        @ikuturso @Mabande @Razemix @sanzky @_elena Kanzlerin Merkel has had a regular podcast which basically nobody has listened to/watched besides the journalists. There is hope it’s the same with Ursel.

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                        • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                          @_elena @aral @EUCommission

                          Unbelievable, and really disheartening. What a farce. I just commented yesterday that "sovereignty" had become this new fad, a business buzzword to indicate where the low-hanging revenue is for the big enterprises, like earlier the hollow phrase of "digital transformation" (digital transformation for the purpose of what?). This more anecdotal proof that this is indeed the case..

                          https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116759881586257835

                          frumble@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          frumble@chaos.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #38

                          @smallcircles @_elena You can find two excellent discussions of the term "digital sovereignty" in these threads (beware, it’s in German):

                          https://chaos.social/@stk/116711117194599688

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                            This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                            My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                            🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                            #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

                            fabirucho@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            fabirucho@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #39

                            @_elena @EUCommission @aral hmm. I get it is not great. But is it better than meta? Most of my family and friends use meta services. So if it could be an alternative I could leave meta for a better option. Even though it isnt perfect

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                            • frumble@chaos.socialF frumble@chaos.social

                              @smallcircles @_elena You can find two excellent discussions of the term "digital sovereignty" in these threads (beware, it’s in German):

                              https://chaos.social/@stk/116711117194599688

                              smallcircles@social.coopS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              smallcircles@social.coop
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #40

                              @frumble thank you!

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                                This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                                My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                                🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                                #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

                                reverend@social.undeadnetwork.deR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                reverend@social.undeadnetwork.de
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #41

                                @_elena @EUCommission @aral The same nonsense we saw with #Mistral. It says on the official Wikipedia page that it’s down to Google, Meta and the usual hedge funds. Then billions are thrown at it; Mistral is utterly incompetent – in other words, rubbish. But everyone made money. I reckon there’s no getting round reading Rosa Luxemburg’s *The Accumulation of Capital*. That’s what it’s always about. Always.

                                harald_korneliussen@mastodon.partipirate.orgH 1 Reply Last reply
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                                • B baalroga@piaille.fr

                                  @_elena for fuck sake they won't ever learn!

                                  Yesterday, I watched this video https://videos.assemblee-nationale.fr/video.18843051_69fb3ac192f70.vulnerabilites-systemiques-dans-le-secteur-du-numerique--table-ronde-sur-le-logiciel-libre-6-mai-2026 with @renchap where he explained how public administrations just want an access to the service, not operate it and it grinds my gear so fuckin much

                                  cquest@amicale.netC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  cquest@amicale.netC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  cquest@amicale.net
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #42

                                  @baalroga @_elena @renchap

                                  To learn you need to understand.

                                  They will, but the hard way, and too late.

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

                                    European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

                                    🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

                                    I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

                                    #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

                                    t3rcermillenium@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    t3rcermillenium@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #43

                                    @_elena @themipper When I first heard about #wsocial, I had high hopes of a genuine European, privacy-preserving, open source solution.

                                    Fool me.

                                    Definitely won’t be joining.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                                      This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                                      My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                                      🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                                      #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

                                      rstub@digitalcourage.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      rstub@digitalcourage.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #44

                                      @_elena
                                      Etwas für Euch? @evawolfangel @sveckert

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        This was definitely NOT on my bingo card for this year:

                                        European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen taking a moment between G7 meetings to promote the launch of the closed-source, for-profit network #WSocial.

                                        🔗 : https://web.archive.org/web/20260617083436/https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rentzhog_kind-of-cool-to-see-ursula-von-der-leyen-ugcPost-7472769475885461504-hwct/

                                        I fear this may be a harbinger of things to come: MANDATORY AGE VERIFICATION for social media across Europe. I hope I'm wrong on this.

                                        #privacy #SurveillanceCapitalism #EUBigTech

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                                        ij@cupoftea.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #45

                                        @_elena It is coming to the UK. They say for new accounts #ageverification will be necessary. Old accounts will become valuable, think twice before closing them. Old account credentials will become valuable too I should think. Set up 2FA. #privacy

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          #WSocial will open up their beta program today… and I have a SCOOP for you: it appears that they have quietly gone closed-source!

                                          This is ironic, considering that the @EUCommission just unveiled their Tech Sovereignty Package, emphasizing the importance of #OpenSource. And yet they have migrated their main ATproto accounts to W Social - whose code can no longer be inspected!

                                          My full article - with a great analysis by @aral:

                                          🔗: https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/

                                          #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #BigTech

                                          pybonacci@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          pybonacci@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #46

                                          @_elena @EUCommission @aral quite concerning and dissapointing ☹️

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