I had a request for this one (text provided, believed to be correct, in part based on it being used by an "angry Welsh person") 😆
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As a Welsh learner, I grapple with mutations (where the spelling of a word varies depending on grammatical factors).
Of all the letters in the Welsh alphabet, the only ones not involved in mutation at any point are FF and S, which always amuses me, as FFS is what I often think while trying to learn mutations.
@suearcher Hah!
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@CiaraNi @eclectech scandinavians coming up with the same answer fistbump!
@silhelm @eclectech Ja!
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@eclectech 'Colourful global disgruntlement' - excellent
Danish: For helvede
(Literally 'for hell', but sense and usage is 'for fuck's sake')
@CiaraNi Thank you!
I need to add a note about that, because it's definitely the sense and usage I'm after.
The variety could be fascinating.
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@eclectech the closest swedish equivalent would be "för i helvete" (for hell [sake]). The word for fucking isn't a swear.
@silhelm Thank you!
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I had a request for this one (text provided, believed to be correct, in part based on it being used by an "angry Welsh person")
Considering making this the first in a series. A multilingual collection of "for fuck's sake".
I could eventually make a poster of colourful global disgruntlement.
@eclectech oh gods I love this.
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OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required
If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).
Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?
It *might* be a very short series
@eclectech Swedish doesn't have such a versatile word for fuck, so our expression is "För helvete" which translates to "for hell."
I'm pretty sure the original saying was "for hell's sake" (för helvetes skull) but was shortened for brevity over time.
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@eclectech you can say “eccheccazzo!” in Italian to mean ffs. And in Spanish you could use “La puta que lo parió” for this. At least in Argentina.
Respectively, their literal meanings are “which dick?” and “the whore who birthed it”.
@adriano Thank you!
I am already thrilled at the variety I'm getting.
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@eclectech oh gods I love this.
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@CiaraNi Thank you!
I need to add a note about that, because it's definitely the sense and usage I'm after.
The variety could be fascinating.
@eclectech @CiaraNi I think it's the case in Scandinavian languages that their proper swear words are all religion-based, rather than, erm, carnal/physical.
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I had a request for this one (text provided, believed to be correct, in part based on it being used by an "angry Welsh person")
Considering making this the first in a series. A multilingual collection of "for fuck's sake".
I could eventually make a poster of colourful global disgruntlement.
@eclectech I am not good at this type of language, but I think the Dutch will be Godverdorie, the euphemistic version of Godverdomme ( God damned).
Or does FFS have a different meaning?
Or perhaps other native Dutch speakers know better? -
I had a request for this one (text provided, believed to be correct, in part based on it being used by an "angry Welsh person")
Considering making this the first in a series. A multilingual collection of "for fuck's sake".
I could eventually make a poster of colourful global disgruntlement.
@eclectech @sheepnik instant bookmark
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@eclectech you can say “eccheccazzo!” in Italian to mean ffs. And in Spanish you could use “La puta que lo parió” for this. At least in Argentina.
Respectively, their literal meanings are “which dick?” and “the whore who birthed it”.
@adriano @eclectech Would "minchia" not work?
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OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required
If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).
Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?
It *might* be a very short series
We are definitely on.
Have already seen that it's not going to be a translation as such, which is fine (and exactly why I wanted to ask Proper Human People).
It is definitely the sense and usage of FFS I'm after.
So... whatever you mutter under your breath when you see the news headlines in the morning, that's what works.
But if you can give me a literal translation too that would be ace - already a couple of interesting ones in the thread
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@adriano @eclectech Would "minchia" not work?
@MiaMarkTwo @eclectech I feel “minchia” is much more generic and flexible, like a general expression of surprise or also of disappointment or anger.
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OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required
If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).
Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?
It *might* be a very short series
@eclectech in Romanian the closest I can think of is "Să-mi bag picioarele!", literal translation would be To stick my feet in.
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@MiaMarkTwo @eclectech I feel “minchia” is much more generic and flexible, like a general expression of surprise or also of disappointment or anger.
@adriano @eclectech Yeah, that's kinda why I didn't suggest it in the first place tbh - it's too dependent on context. My Italian's a bit rusty these days - it's always good to get a second opinion
I've always used it interchangeably with "cazzo", which feels stronger for some reason.
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@eclectech in Romanian the closest I can think of is "Să-mi bag picioarele!", literal translation would be To stick my feet in.
@codrut Thank you!
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I had a request for this one (text provided, believed to be correct, in part based on it being used by an "angry Welsh person")
Considering making this the first in a series. A multilingual collection of "for fuck's sake".
I could eventually make a poster of colourful global disgruntlement.
@eclectech 🫡🫡🫡🫡
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@adriano @eclectech Yeah, that's kinda why I didn't suggest it in the first place tbh - it's too dependent on context. My Italian's a bit rusty these days - it's always good to get a second opinion
I've always used it interchangeably with "cazzo", which feels stronger for some reason.
@MiaMarkTwo @eclectech cazzo and minchia both mean “cock” and are interchangeable, yes. But “eccheccazzo” is its own thing.
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@MiaMarkTwo @eclectech I feel “minchia” is much more generic and flexible, like a general expression of surprise or also of disappointment or anger.
@eclectech
it is formed by 3 different words, "e che cazzo!" , pronounced in one fluid eccheccazzo!@adriano @MiaMarkTwo
I agree about minchia. Generic enough to be used almost as a normal word (almost).
