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  3. I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

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  • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
    coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

    Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

    Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

    #science #nature #technology

    coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC valentine@flickering.styleV attoparsec@clacks.linkA gnoll110@ruby.socialG dpiponi@mathstodon.xyzD 32 Replies Last reply
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    • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

      I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

      Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

      Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

      #science #nature #technology

      coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
      coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
      coreyspowell@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      I also have to point out that the most expensive space telescope (JWST) cost about $500 million/year. We spent 1000x that much on AI development in 2025.

      Data collection is essential for discovery...and it's remarkably cheap compared to many other things we do routinely.

      #science #nature #history #tech

      coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC harleck@tech.lgbtH gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG 3 Replies Last reply
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      • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

        I also have to point out that the most expensive space telescope (JWST) cost about $500 million/year. We spent 1000x that much on AI development in 2025.

        Data collection is essential for discovery...and it's remarkably cheap compared to many other things we do routinely.

        #science #nature #history #tech

        coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        I've also seen smart people tie themselves into knots trying to defend the original claim.

        "He just means big science is expensive."
        "He just means that AI can help with data analysis."
        "He just means that string theory is a dead end."

        But that is not the claim, and the efforts to justify it only make the argument even stranger.

        tobyhaynes@mstdn.caT reedmideke@mastodon.socialR abesamma@toolsforthought.socialA xchaos@f.czX revk@toot.me.ukR 7 Replies Last reply
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        • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

          I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

          Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

          Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

          #science #nature #technology

          valentine@flickering.styleV This user is from outside of this forum
          valentine@flickering.styleV This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @coreyspowell
          People like Elon Musk will tear down others' accomplishments, because he could never equal them.

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          • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

            I also have to point out that the most expensive space telescope (JWST) cost about $500 million/year. We spent 1000x that much on AI development in 2025.

            Data collection is essential for discovery...and it's remarkably cheap compared to many other things we do routinely.

            #science #nature #history #tech

            harleck@tech.lgbtH This user is from outside of this forum
            harleck@tech.lgbtH This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @coreyspowell

            https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasawebbtelescope/albums/72177720331299130/

            sorry for the edits. JWST images are as good as we've even been.

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            • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

              I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

              Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

              Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

              #science #nature #technology

              attoparsec@clacks.linkA This user is from outside of this forum
              attoparsec@clacks.linkA This user is from outside of this forum
              attoparsec@clacks.link
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @coreyspowell It's nothing less than a complete rejection of inductive science!

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              • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                #science #nature #technology

                gnoll110@ruby.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                gnoll110@ruby.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                gnoll110@ruby.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @coreyspowell

                I put any stagnation of physics etal, down to 45 years of Reaganomics.

                ...verses, say Dengonomics.

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                • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                  I've also seen smart people tie themselves into knots trying to defend the original claim.

                  "He just means big science is expensive."
                  "He just means that AI can help with data analysis."
                  "He just means that string theory is a dead end."

                  But that is not the claim, and the efforts to justify it only make the argument even stranger.

                  tobyhaynes@mstdn.caT This user is from outside of this forum
                  tobyhaynes@mstdn.caT This user is from outside of this forum
                  tobyhaynes@mstdn.ca
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                  #8

                  @coreyspowell
                  Progress relies on understanding.
                  Science is built on hypothesis / observation / analysis and identification of the success or failure of the hypothesis.

                  Elon Musk demonstrates clearly that he has no idea what science is. Much as he has demonstrated that he has no idea what software engineering is.

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                  • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                    I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                    Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                    Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                    #science #nature #technology

                    dpiponi@mathstodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dpiponi@mathstodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dpiponi@mathstodon.xyz
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @coreyspowell I've been hearing this one since back in the sci.physics days. It verges on a conspiracy theory.

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                    • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                      I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                      Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                      Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                      #science #nature #technology

                      rudicron@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                      rudicron@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @coreyspowell
                      "As a consequence, there can be no advancement of learning. Truth has been already spelled out once and for all, and we can only keep interpreting its obscure message."

                      - Ur-Fascism, Umberto Eco

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                      • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                        I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                        Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                        Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                        #science #nature #technology

                        thriftwicker@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                        thriftwicker@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                        thriftwicker@mastodon.social
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                        #11

                        @coreyspowell I recently read that owning and posting shitty fascist claptrap on a giant, ai oozing, propaganda mill of a social media platform does much worse for physics than telescopes or colliders ever could.

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                        • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                          I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                          Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                          Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                          #science #nature #technology

                          stargazersmith@social.linux.pizzaS This user is from outside of this forum
                          stargazersmith@social.linux.pizzaS This user is from outside of this forum
                          stargazersmith@social.linux.pizza
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          @coreyspowell
                          To those in the know, Musk exposes his ignorance with such stupid talk. To those not in the know, he exposes his arrogance.

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                          • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                            I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                            Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                            Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                            #science #nature #technology

                            mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
                            mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
                            mastodonmigration@mastodon.online
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                            #13

                            @coreyspowell

                            What is slowing discovery is a poorly conceived really big spaceship money pit.

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                            • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                              I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                              Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                              Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                              #science #nature #technology

                              yakmacker@society.kalli.stY This user is from outside of this forum
                              yakmacker@society.kalli.stY This user is from outside of this forum
                              yakmacker@society.kalli.st
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #14
                              @coreyspowell don't need to observe the world when we have generative AI!
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                              • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                                I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                                Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                                Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                                #science #nature #technology

                                jstevenyork@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                jstevenyork@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                jstevenyork@mastodon.social
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                                #15

                                @coreyspowell
                                And his plan that relies on huge constellations of giant AI satellites somehow ISN'T "expensive hardware?"

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                                • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                                  I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                                  Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                                  Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                                  #science #nature #technology

                                  oddhack@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                  oddhack@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                  oddhack@mstdn.social
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                                  #16

                                  @coreyspowell you could build a whole lot of Superconducting Super Colliders and JWSTs for the cost of one gigantic "AI" fraud company.

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                                  • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                                    I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                                    Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                                    Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                                    #science #nature #technology

                                    kanamauna@sauropods.winK This user is from outside of this forum
                                    kanamauna@sauropods.winK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @coreyspowell

                                    He also believes we live in a simulation. I assume that he thinks that the simulation is being run to study us and thus all that physics stuff is just “background” decorations on the fish tank.

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                                    • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                                      I've also seen smart people tie themselves into knots trying to defend the original claim.

                                      "He just means big science is expensive."
                                      "He just means that AI can help with data analysis."
                                      "He just means that string theory is a dead end."

                                      But that is not the claim, and the efforts to justify it only make the argument even stranger.

                                      reedmideke@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                                      reedmideke@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                                      reedmideke@mastodon.social
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                                      #18

                                      @coreyspowell I mean, he's the guy who, despite being head dude of the largest satellite operator in the world, argued satellites couldn't be a problem for astronomy because they'd be in darkness at night… so yeah, I'd agree there's a much more straightforward explanation for his apparently nonsensical statements https://mastodon.social/@reedmideke/113817738470795433

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                                      • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                                        I've also seen smart people tie themselves into knots trying to defend the original claim.

                                        "He just means big science is expensive."
                                        "He just means that AI can help with data analysis."
                                        "He just means that string theory is a dead end."

                                        But that is not the claim, and the efforts to justify it only make the argument even stranger.

                                        abesamma@toolsforthought.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @coreyspowell trying to defend this man's stream of weird takes is a thankless, exhausting and fruitless endeavour. Idk why many still do it.

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                                        • coreyspowell@mastodon.socialC coreyspowell@mastodon.social

                                          I keep seeing versions of this post, which imply a bizarre misunderstanding of how we know the world.

                                          Do people imagine that if we'd never observed galaxies or neutrinos or exoplanets or the cosmic microwave background, we could have *imagined* these things & that would be just as real?

                                          Or that we've magically reached the point, just now, where we no longer need to observe the world?

                                          #science #nature #technology

                                          flaki@flaki.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @coreyspowell billionaires:
                                          no need to look inside, there's no point, introspection is dead

                                          also billionaires: there is also no need to look outside

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