In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

[unlofl@mstdn.social]

@cwebber They're in too deep, they're all AI investors who are scared that you're going to scare the other AI investors.

Its all FUD! Have fun being poor! This totally doesn't sound like crypto-hype from the last cycle! To the moon!

[faoluin@chitter.xyz]

@targrus @cwebber Same!!

[vv@solarpunk.moe]

@cwebber okay but the problem is folks who unknowingly get their data ingested by this system just for being a customer

[dvshkn@social.treehouse.systems]

@unlofl @cwebber I argued a lot that AI hype was more like cloud than crypto, until the moltbook thing. That really felt like the NFT moment. I'll eat my hat on that one.

[dryak@mstdn.science]

@szczot3k @cwebber Another relevant (on theme of what could possibly go wrong if you give too much autonomy to an agent): 416

> "Laptop: Notifying field agents. Children acquired. Calling Lenhart parents. Negotiating for WiFi password..."

https://xkcd.com/416/

[wakame@tech.lgbt]

@brad @cwebber

In the end, we created a secure messaging platform for the movement, hidden in plain sight.

Corporate social media had long been slopped to the point of uselessness, nobody asked why you posted anything, because nobody was there to ask.
They liked and boosted and reshared the posts nonetheless.

We didn't need strong cryptography, or even custom software.
We just wrote what we thought and felt, but replaced "billionaires" with "competitors", "blow up" with "buyout", "revolution" with "investment" and so on.

They never saw it coming.

#microfiction

[mylittlemetroid@sfba.social]

@cwebber you know MVA was sitting RIGHT THERE

[unlofl@mstdn.social]

@dvshkn @cwebber Its definitely more "real" than crypto, but I'd argue much less "real" than cloud computing.

Everyone always knew cloud infrastructure was worth something, it was the future of colocation and leasing servers. What no one was sure of was the adoption rate, or how much would be kept on-prem for various reasons.

AI is... well, it does SOMETHING, but what is it worth? When will it get good at what? For how many things is the answer "never?"

[cwebber@social.coop]

@vv Yeah that's true. The unfortunate thing is the "blast radius" of powerful using these tools. And with war, unfortunately, that can be quite literal

[dvshkn@social.treehouse.systems]

@unlofl @cwebber Not to get too into it, but there was a lot of promising that the cloud would automatically scale any application (lol). I found that pretty similar to the AI hype of all jobs are going away.

But this new wave of hype (and the spam, ugh) is very crypto-like, I'll admit.

[unlofl@mstdn.social]

@dvshkn @cwebber oh dang, missed that hype. I currently work balls-deep in piles of containers, but there is definitely no way in hell random existing applications were going to scale like that stateless stuff.

[queermatters@mstdn.social]

@cwebber what in the precious ever loving fuck make it stop

[cwebber@social.coop]

Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

[vlkr@social.tchncs.de]

@cwebber I think it's naive to even start with the assumption that there is an actor with good intentions behind this.

[eons@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@cwebber if you aren't doing anything bad, then you don't need to steal credentials (?

[unlofl@mstdn.social]

@cwebber
"information wants to be free!"
*chasing after my SSN and bank account numbers*
"get back here you cheeky little fuckers!"

[cwebber@social.coop]

Christ I never thought I'd say this but I wish the NFT craze was still going right now. Absolutely all these people would find a whole new way for all their apes to be gone

[ladytel@masto.hackers.town]

@cwebber I never understand that like I hope they keep their bank info private.... Unless they want to give me money that's cool

[silvermoon82@wandering.shop]

@cwebber
All my apes, all openclawed.

[brennen@federation.p1k3.com]

@cwebber "everybody has something to hide, like for example the credentials for taking money out of their bank account" is a weirdly hard thing to put across sometimes