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  3. In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

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  • faoluin@chitter.xyzF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #31

    @targrus @cwebber Same!!

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      Frankly this rules. I can't wait to see what happens to everyone who uses this. It's gonna be awesome.

      Everyone who installs this fucking thing deserves it at this point. Burn it all down.

      vv@solarpunk.moeV This user is from outside of this forum
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      #32

      @cwebber okay but the problem is folks who unknowingly get their data ingested by this system just for being a customer 😱

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      • unlofl@mstdn.socialU unlofl@mstdn.social

        @cwebber They're in too deep, they're all AI investors who are scared that you're going to scare the other AI investors.

        Its all FUD! Have fun being poor! This totally doesn't sound like crypto-hype from the last cycle! To the moon!

        dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD This user is from outside of this forum
        dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #33

        @unlofl @cwebber I argued a lot that AI hype was more like cloud than crypto, until the moltbook thing. That really felt like the NFT moment. I'll eat my hat on that one.

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        • szczot3k@milliways.socialS szczot3k@milliways.social

          @cwebber same vibes (pun intended) as xkcd 3160

          dryak@mstdn.scienceD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #34

          @szczot3k @cwebber Another relevant (on theme of what could possibly go wrong if you give too much autonomy to an agent): 416

          > "Laptop: Notifying field agents. Children acquired. Calling Lenhart parents. Negotiating for WiFi password..."

          https://xkcd.com/416/

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          • brad@m.toad.hostB brad@m.toad.host

            @cwebber Actually, the more I think about it, this may be the logical conclusion to linkdin; Just people's unrestricted shadow agents vomiting corporate jargon at each other and randomly trading job titles with each other

            wakame@tech.lgbtW This user is from outside of this forum
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            #35

            @brad @cwebber

            In the end, we created a secure messaging platform for the movement, hidden in plain sight.

            Corporate social media had long been slopped to the point of uselessness, nobody asked why you posted anything, because nobody was there to ask.
            They liked and boosted and reshared the posts nonetheless.

            We didn't need strong cryptography, or even custom software.
            We just wrote what we thought and felt, but replaced "billionaires" with "competitors", "blow up" with "buyout", "revolution" with "investment" and so on.

            They never saw it coming.

            #microfiction

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              Gonna go get myself a VibeMBA 😎

              mylittlemetroid@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #36

              @cwebber you know MVA was sitting RIGHT THERE

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              • dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD dvshkn@social.treehouse.systems

                @unlofl @cwebber I argued a lot that AI hype was more like cloud than crypto, until the moltbook thing. That really felt like the NFT moment. I'll eat my hat on that one.

                unlofl@mstdn.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                #37

                @dvshkn @cwebber Its definitely more "real" than crypto, but I'd argue much less "real" than cloud computing.

                Everyone always knew cloud infrastructure was worth something, it was the future of colocation and leasing servers. What no one was sure of was the adoption rate, or how much would be kept on-prem for various reasons.

                AI is... well, it does SOMETHING, but what is it worth? When will it get good at what? For how many things is the answer "never?"

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                • vv@solarpunk.moeV vv@solarpunk.moe

                  @cwebber okay but the problem is folks who unknowingly get their data ingested by this system just for being a customer 😱

                  cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #38

                  @vv Yeah that's true. The unfortunate thing is the "blast radius" of powerful using these tools. And with war, unfortunately, that can be quite literal 😞

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                  • unlofl@mstdn.socialU unlofl@mstdn.social

                    @dvshkn @cwebber Its definitely more "real" than crypto, but I'd argue much less "real" than cloud computing.

                    Everyone always knew cloud infrastructure was worth something, it was the future of colocation and leasing servers. What no one was sure of was the adoption rate, or how much would be kept on-prem for various reasons.

                    AI is... well, it does SOMETHING, but what is it worth? When will it get good at what? For how many things is the answer "never?"

                    dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #39

                    @unlofl @cwebber Not to get too into it, but there was a lot of promising that the cloud would automatically scale any application (lol). I found that pretty similar to the AI hype of all jobs are going away.

                    But this new wave of hype (and the spam, ugh) is very crypto-like, I'll admit.

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                    • dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD dvshkn@social.treehouse.systems

                      @unlofl @cwebber Not to get too into it, but there was a lot of promising that the cloud would automatically scale any application (lol). I found that pretty similar to the AI hype of all jobs are going away.

                      But this new wave of hype (and the spam, ugh) is very crypto-like, I'll admit.

                      unlofl@mstdn.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #40

                      @dvshkn @cwebber oh dang, missed that hype. I currently work balls-deep in piles of containers, but there is definitely no way in hell random existing applications were going to scale like that stateless stuff.

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

                        Just put all your customer relationship information in there, run your business out of it, what could possibly go wrong

                        queermatters@mstdn.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #41

                        @cwebber what in the precious ever loving fuck 😭 make it stop

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          Frankly this rules. I can't wait to see what happens to everyone who uses this. It's gonna be awesome.

                          Everyone who installs this fucking thing deserves it at this point. Burn it all down.

                          cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
                          cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #42

                          Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                          Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

                          unlofl@mstdn.socialU eons@mastodon.gamedev.placeE cwebber@social.coopC ladytel@masto.hackers.townL brennen@federation.p1k3.comB 8 Replies Last reply
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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

                            Just put all your customer relationship information in there, run your business out of it, what could possibly go wrong

                            vlkr@social.tchncs.deV This user is from outside of this forum
                            vlkr@social.tchncs.deV This user is from outside of this forum
                            vlkr@social.tchncs.de
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                            #43

                            @cwebber I think it's naive to even start with the assumption that there is an actor with good intentions behind this.

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                              Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

                              eons@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #44

                              @cwebber if you aren't doing anything bad, then you don't need to steal credentials (?

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                                Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

                                unlofl@mstdn.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #45

                                @cwebber
                                "information wants to be free!"
                                *chasing after my SSN and bank account numbers*
                                "get back here you cheeky little fuckers!"

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                                  Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

                                  cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #46

                                  Christ I never thought I'd say this but I wish the NFT craze was still going right now. Absolutely all these people would find a whole new way for all their apes to be gone

                                  silvermoon82@wandering.shopS erika@social.lolE geist@eldritch.cafeG cdonat@hostsharing.coopC 4 Replies Last reply
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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                                    Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

                                    ladytel@masto.hackers.townL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #47

                                    @cwebber I never understand that like I hope they keep their bank info private.... Unless they want to give me money that's cool

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      Christ I never thought I'd say this but I wish the NFT craze was still going right now. Absolutely all these people would find a whole new way for all their apes to be gone

                                      silvermoon82@wandering.shopS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      silvermoon82@wandering.shop
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                                      #48

                                      @cwebber
                                      All my apes, all openclawed.

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                                        Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

                                        brennen@federation.p1k3.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #49

                                        @cwebber "everybody has something to hide, like for example the credentials for taking money out of their bank account" is a weirdly hard thing to put across sometimes

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                                        • silvermoon82@wandering.shopS silvermoon82@wandering.shop

                                          @cwebber
                                          All my apes, all openclawed.

                                          cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #50

                                          @silvermoon82 openclawed right from my hands

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