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In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

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  • dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD dvshkn@social.treehouse.systems

    @unlofl @cwebber I argued a lot that AI hype was more like cloud than crypto, until the moltbook thing. That really felt like the NFT moment. I'll eat my hat on that one.

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    #37

    @dvshkn @cwebber Its definitely more "real" than crypto, but I'd argue much less "real" than cloud computing.

    Everyone always knew cloud infrastructure was worth something, it was the future of colocation and leasing servers. What no one was sure of was the adoption rate, or how much would be kept on-prem for various reasons.

    AI is... well, it does SOMETHING, but what is it worth? When will it get good at what? For how many things is the answer "never?"

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    • vv@solarpunk.moeV vv@solarpunk.moe

      @cwebber okay but the problem is folks who unknowingly get their data ingested by this system just for being a customer 😱

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      #38

      @vv Yeah that's true. The unfortunate thing is the "blast radius" of powerful using these tools. And with war, unfortunately, that can be quite literal 😞

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      • unlofl@mstdn.socialU unlofl@mstdn.social

        @dvshkn @cwebber Its definitely more "real" than crypto, but I'd argue much less "real" than cloud computing.

        Everyone always knew cloud infrastructure was worth something, it was the future of colocation and leasing servers. What no one was sure of was the adoption rate, or how much would be kept on-prem for various reasons.

        AI is... well, it does SOMETHING, but what is it worth? When will it get good at what? For how many things is the answer "never?"

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        #39

        @unlofl @cwebber Not to get too into it, but there was a lot of promising that the cloud would automatically scale any application (lol). I found that pretty similar to the AI hype of all jobs are going away.

        But this new wave of hype (and the spam, ugh) is very crypto-like, I'll admit.

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        • dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD dvshkn@social.treehouse.systems

          @unlofl @cwebber Not to get too into it, but there was a lot of promising that the cloud would automatically scale any application (lol). I found that pretty similar to the AI hype of all jobs are going away.

          But this new wave of hype (and the spam, ugh) is very crypto-like, I'll admit.

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          #40

          @dvshkn @cwebber oh dang, missed that hype. I currently work balls-deep in piles of containers, but there is definitely no way in hell random existing applications were going to scale like that stateless stuff.

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

            Just put all your customer relationship information in there, run your business out of it, what could possibly go wrong

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            #41

            @cwebber what in the precious ever loving fuck 😭 make it stop

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              Frankly this rules. I can't wait to see what happens to everyone who uses this. It's gonna be awesome.

              Everyone who installs this fucking thing deserves it at this point. Burn it all down.

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              #42

              Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

              Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

              unlofl@mstdn.socialU eons@mastodon.gamedev.placeE cwebber@social.coopC ladytel@masto.hackers.townL brennen@federation.p1k3.comB 8 Replies Last reply
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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

                Just put all your customer relationship information in there, run your business out of it, what could possibly go wrong

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                #43

                @cwebber I think it's naive to even start with the assumption that there is an actor with good intentions behind this.

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                  Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                  #44

                  @cwebber if you aren't doing anything bad, then you don't need to steal credentials (?

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                    Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                    #45

                    @cwebber
                    "information wants to be free!"
                    *chasing after my SSN and bank account numbers*
                    "get back here you cheeky little fuckers!"

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                      Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                      #46

                      Christ I never thought I'd say this but I wish the NFT craze was still going right now. Absolutely all these people would find a whole new way for all their apes to be gone

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                        Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                        #47

                        @cwebber I never understand that like I hope they keep their bank info private.... Unless they want to give me money that's cool

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          Christ I never thought I'd say this but I wish the NFT craze was still going right now. Absolutely all these people would find a whole new way for all their apes to be gone

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                          #48

                          @cwebber
                          All my apes, all openclawed.

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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                            Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                            #49

                            @cwebber "everybody has something to hide, like for example the credentials for taking money out of their bank account" is a weirdly hard thing to put across sometimes

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                            • silvermoon82@wandering.shopS silvermoon82@wandering.shop

                              @cwebber
                              All my apes, all openclawed.

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                              #50

                              @silvermoon82 openclawed right from my hands

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                @silvermoon82 openclawed right from my hands

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                                #51

                                @cwebber
                                My agents knew me as this ape!

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  Christ I never thought I'd say this but I wish the NFT craze was still going right now. Absolutely all these people would find a whole new way for all their apes to be gone

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                                  #52

                                  @cwebber “great question! I know it might seem shocking to you that I have spent all of your savings on a jpeg of the worst picrew you’ve ever seen. Here is why it’s a genius investment: Not only is the token not fungible,

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                                    Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                                    #53

                                    @cwebber Read that comment and... wtaf? 'I feel like the average person is going to be like "oh no it'd be terrible if everyone found out I really like the 'big boobs' category on pornhub"' um, yes idiot dude on the internet, this does legit freak people out? Which they're allowed to do?

                                    I know these people have a hard time with the idea "I am not the center of the universe" and therefore potential social consequences, but still. Really?

                                    People really don't give HN the shit it deserves.

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      Christ I never thought I'd say this but I wish the NFT craze was still going right now. Absolutely all these people would find a whole new way for all their apes to be gone

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                                      #54

                                      @cwebber I guess all it would take for the nft to take off again would be an inordinate amount of « autonomous agents » trading metaverse nft on the blockchain in one huge apocalyptic convergence

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

                                        Just put all your customer relationship information in there, run your business out of it, what could possibly go wrong

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                                        #55

                                        @cwebber oh intern on acid, could you please send out the marketing email list?

                                        ...

                                        You included.a bit of your philosophy work?

                                        oh no

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                                        • robertklaschka@mastodon.onlineR robertklaschka@mastodon.online

                                          @cwebber I thought you do an MBA to meet people you want to know. So a Vibe MBA would possibly be to meet people you don't want to know! Maybe even people who don't exist.

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                                          #56

                                          @robertklaschka @cwebber

                                          Wait, are you suggesting the remote worker Henry Ford my AI agent found, recruited, negotiated with and finally hired to be the company innovator, might not be real?

                                          But he had such a great resume. Did you know he invented the production line?

                                          My AI agent handled all his onboarding and payroll, since we fired Betty.

                                          He must be real, we have been paying him well and were awaiting his presentation of the opportunites for the company in Fordlândia.

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