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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    And damn there is another one

    DG Regio lists
    Helsingør [DK] - Helsingborg [SE]
    the former rail ferry, and mentioned as a future location of a bridge or tunnel

    But if I include former train ferries where am I going to stop?

    Or are they eventually going to put a fixed link there? 🤔

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    @jon would a bridge tunnel there make sense? I could imagine the location being interesting for freight. But how much is Copenhagen-Malmö at capacity?

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    • vermeer@mstdn.socialV vermeer@mstdn.social

      @jon would a bridge tunnel there make sense? I could imagine the location being interesting for freight. But how much is Copenhagen-Malmö at capacity?

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      #30

      @vermeer @jon there are at least two competing proposals (Helsingborg-Helsingör and Landskrona-Copenhagen), a number of prestudies and quite some local lobbying for a fixed link there, but no real work being done on a national level (on either side) since maybe 2020 or so. Malmö-Copenhagen is expected to reach max capacity before too long

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        OK, these are the "ideas"/ "plans" for new #CrossBorderRail lines in Europe where the location of the border crossing is new

        Bussoleno 🇮🇹 - St Jean de Maurienne 🇫🇷 (Torino-Lyon)
        Grafing 🇩🇪 - Langkampfen 🇦🇹 (Brenner Nordzulauf)
        Heidenau-Süd 🇩🇪 - Ústí nad Labem západ 🇨🇿 (Future HSL Berlin-Praha)
        Helsingør 🇩🇰 - Helsingborg 🇸🇪 (Fixed link idea)
        Helsinki 🇫🇮 - Tallinn 🇪🇪 (Rail Baltica tunnel)
        Innsbruck 🇦🇹 - Fortezza 🇮🇹 (Brenner Base Tunnel)
        Mszana 🇵🇱 - Bohumín 🇨🇿 (CZ-PL CPK)
        Mockava 🇱🇹 - Trakiszki 🇵🇱 (Rail Baltica)

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        #31

        @jon I have seen (regional) politicians promoting Huelva - Vila Real de Santo António. But maybe that’s too far fetched in this bunch?

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        • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

          @jon I have seen (regional) politicians promoting Huelva - Vila Real de Santo António. But maybe that’s too far fetched in this bunch?

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          #32

          @stefanlindbohm that is in already, and I went there! 🙂

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            #33

            @pglux.bsky.social Good idea! Will add

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              #34

              @pglux.bsky.social What happened to the St Julien tram idea? https://www.grand-geneve.org/projects/tram-geneve-plan-les-ouates-saint-julien__trashed/

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              • leo_wallentin@mastodon.socialL leo_wallentin@mastodon.social

                @vermeer @jon there are at least two competing proposals (Helsingborg-Helsingör and Landskrona-Copenhagen), a number of prestudies and quite some local lobbying for a fixed link there, but no real work being done on a national level (on either side) since maybe 2020 or so. Malmö-Copenhagen is expected to reach max capacity before too long

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                #35

                @leo_wallentin @jon yes I can imagine that more freight might come after fehmarnbelt is built. But so far it seems like German side of that link is the biggest question mark

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                  #36

                  @pglux.bsky.social The public comms about it is very poor. But I will go there in a few weeks (by bike)

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                  • vermeer@mstdn.socialV vermeer@mstdn.social

                    @leo_wallentin @jon yes I can imagine that more freight might come after fehmarnbelt is built. But so far it seems like German side of that link is the biggest question mark

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                    #37

                    @vermeer @jon Oh, the Södra stambanan mainline (SE) is going to be a HUGE bottleneck as well (and plans for new mainlines have been scrapped. A number of smaller projects to increase capacity is in planning though)

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      @acb Those are too far fetched I think yes

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                      #38

                      @jon
                      I agree. I think the Gedser-Rostock connection was mainly put in play to confuse the discussion and delay/stop the Fehmarn plans.

                      The Fehmarn project will leave us with a nice big tunnel element factory, but the Danes itching to reuse it are mainly looking at a Kattegat link, which will not be croas-border.
                      @acb

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