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  3. @startrek #AllStarTrek #WatchParty #Meld It's so interesting that Suder shows real tenderness for Tuvok in this moment.

@startrek #AllStarTrek #WatchParty #Meld It's so interesting that Suder shows real tenderness for Tuvok in this moment.

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  • phangurl@starbase80.wtfP phangurl@starbase80.wtf

    @startrek #AllStarTrek #WatchParty #Meld It's so interesting that Suder shows real tenderness for Tuvok in this moment. Tuvok just tried to kill him but he calls for help and cradles Tuvok's unconscious body until help arrives. Fascinating.
    #StarTrek #StarTrekVOY

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    #3

    @Phangurl Lon Suder was easily one of my favorite characters in Voyager.

    Doesn’t hurt that I’m also a Brad Dourif fan, lol.

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    • phangurl@starbase80.wtfP phangurl@starbase80.wtf

      @startrek #AllStarTrek #WatchParty #Meld
      Do you think Tuvok continue to visit Suder long after the events of this Meld episode? Janeway said she wanted to rehabilitate Suder. I assume some sort of counseling would be involved? I wonder if the EMH would do that. 🤔
      #StarTrek #StarTrekVOY

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      #4

      @Phangurl @startrek
      Suder does return and you question gets answered (if you haven't seen the rest of the series? Trying not to spoil anything if you haven't)

      I think Suder is one of the best side characters in Voyager, hands down.

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      • phangurl@starbase80.wtfP phangurl@starbase80.wtf

        @startrek #AllStarTrek #WatchParty #Meld
        Do you think Tuvok continue to visit Suder long after the events of this Meld episode? Janeway said she wanted to rehabilitate Suder. I assume some sort of counseling would be involved? I wonder if the EMH would do that. 🤔
        #StarTrek #StarTrekVOY

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        #5

        @Phangurl I think my favourite thing about Suder is that he *tries* to be good. In the past he had absolutely no support for his problem and bringing it up would likely have resulted in *less* support rather than more (due to ostracisation). So he found a way for his problem to be constructive in the Maquis. On Voyager, that outlet was gone and he couldn't adapt. But then he was given another path and he embraced it.

        He's not an evil person, he just has personality defects that need support.

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        • kalshann@mastodon.socialK kalshann@mastodon.social

          @Phangurl @startrek
          Suder does return and you question gets answered (if you haven't seen the rest of the series? Trying not to spoil anything if you haven't)

          I think Suder is one of the best side characters in Voyager, hands down.

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          #6

          @Kalshann @startrek I can't remember off the top of my head. Thanks for checking. I've seen VOY so many times but have a terrible memory. I remember we see Suder again but can't remember the context. 😆

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          • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

            @Phangurl I think my favourite thing about Suder is that he *tries* to be good. In the past he had absolutely no support for his problem and bringing it up would likely have resulted in *less* support rather than more (due to ostracisation). So he found a way for his problem to be constructive in the Maquis. On Voyager, that outlet was gone and he couldn't adapt. But then he was given another path and he embraced it.

            He's not an evil person, he just has personality defects that need support.

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            #7

            @StarkRG really good points. So he's a bit like Dexter.

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            • phangurl@starbase80.wtfP phangurl@starbase80.wtf

              @StarkRG really good points. So he's a bit like Dexter.

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              #8

              @Phangurl Pretty close parallel, yeah.

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              • terrance_shaw@mastodon.worldT terrance_shaw@mastodon.world

                @Phangurl Lon Suder was easily one of my favorite characters in Voyager.

                Doesn’t hurt that I’m also a Brad Dourif fan, lol.

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                #9

                @terrance_shaw I camt take my eyes away from him. And Brad is a fab actor.

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                • phangurl@starbase80.wtfP phangurl@starbase80.wtf

                  @terrance_shaw I camt take my eyes away from him. And Brad is a fab actor.

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                  #10

                  @Phangurl Agreed. And honestly I was more than satisfied with the way they sent his character off.

                  Could’ve easily just had him in there for a single throwaway episode, but they did him so right.

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                  • phangurl@starbase80.wtfP phangurl@starbase80.wtf

                    @Kalshann @startrek I can't remember off the top of my head. Thanks for checking. I've seen VOY so many times but have a terrible memory. I remember we see Suder again but can't remember the context. 😆

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                    #11

                    @Phangurl @startrek
                    It's an excellent episode, and this coming from a non-fan of Voyager! lol (I'm a Niner)

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                    • kalshann@mastodon.socialK kalshann@mastodon.social

                      @Phangurl @startrek
                      Suder does return and you question gets answered (if you haven't seen the rest of the series? Trying not to spoil anything if you haven't)

                      I think Suder is one of the best side characters in Voyager, hands down.

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                      #12

                      @Kalshann @Phangurl @startrek Agree - being played by Brad Dourif certainly doesn't hurt, either 😁

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