There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".
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I understand the pull to a certain degree, the pain. I walked away from over 30k followers on X which - if like me you have no other anchor of legitimacy - is a big deal. And I met friends there, peers. Twitter did a lot to get me where I am today. But I still wouldn't frequent a Nazi bar.
@tante Yea same. I had friends there, but honestly most left the moment Elon took control. But spread across everywhere else.
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@tante Journalists could use nitter if they cared enough. And if capitalism would even have a place for actual journalism.
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@AbandonedAmerica @tante what can I say but “non illegitimi carborundum”
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@tante 21k on fedi. 60% of the way back. and more of those are probably real
@glyph I try no longer to look at those kinds of numbers TBH. It kinda fucks up your perception of the world.
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@AbandonedAmerica @tante what can I say but “non illegitimi carborundum”
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There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".
Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.
@tante frankly, is xitter2.0 aka "bluesky" so much better, in that aspect?
Idiots follow hype trends. Shitty "influencers" seek numbers. Idiots follow trends created by "influencers". And the lions, erm, "influencers" stay near where the zebra are.
::breaks into song:: IT'S THE CIRCLE OF.... shit.
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There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".
Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.
@tante I take some pride in following through my announcement to leave when the takeover talks were still ongoing. As a seasoned Tesla hater by profession*, I don't regret leaving.
I still feel though that both the usable part of FOSS and the web at large are shrinking. And that's not just a little inconvenient, but makes the remaining choices much harder than leaving Twitter was
* Like when you do vehicle safety analysis for a living, you really have no choice in matters regarding Elon...
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I understand the pull to a certain degree, the pain. I walked away from over 30k followers on X which - if like me you have no other anchor of legitimacy - is a big deal. And I met friends there, peers. Twitter did a lot to get me where I am today. But I still wouldn't frequent a Nazi bar.
@tante I deleted my account and never looked back. Someone reused my handle and somehow got it permabanned. Never found out what they did.
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@tante I take some pride in following through my announcement to leave when the takeover talks were still ongoing. As a seasoned Tesla hater by profession*, I don't regret leaving.
I still feel though that both the usable part of FOSS and the web at large are shrinking. And that's not just a little inconvenient, but makes the remaining choices much harder than leaving Twitter was
* Like when you do vehicle safety analysis for a living, you really have no choice in matters regarding Elon...
@tante E.g. take quickshell. I've been building personal dotfiles for a little over a year now and I have something that can rival many of the bigger installments for the functionality that I personally want out of it, imo.
Should I boycott it now that it's funded by omarchy? Sure.
Is it viable for me to either port my stuff to plain Qt or leave it behind just because? Can I go back to something like KDE where the verdict on their AI policy has some bad outlook?
Like I said, only bad choices.
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I understand the pull to a certain degree, the pain. I walked away from over 30k followers on X which - if like me you have no other anchor of legitimacy - is a big deal. And I met friends there, peers. Twitter did a lot to get me where I am today. But I still wouldn't frequent a Nazi bar.
@tante i can't consider friends the people who stayed. if you choose a fascist over everybody else, i can’t trust you. this goes for every asshat i know getting pennies from substack.
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There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".
Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.
@tante I keep thinking about writing up a blog post titled something like "No, we're not all hanging out at the Nazi Bar", with the basic premise of:
Hey, you keep saying you like hanging out at the Nazi Bar because "everyone" is there, but, no, we're not. You are not hearing anyone who's not cool hanging out with Nazis. Continuing to tell me what fun you're having at the Nazi Bar is not a great look. Nor is telling me how Good For Business being seen at that bar is.
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I understand the pull to a certain degree, the pain. I walked away from over 30k followers on X which - if like me you have no other anchor of legitimacy - is a big deal. And I met friends there, peers. Twitter did a lot to get me where I am today. But I still wouldn't frequent a Nazi bar.
@tante I miss twitter. I do not miss X.
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There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".
Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.
Very...
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There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".
Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.
This is the reason for slowly backing away from the AI folks.
Don’t turn your back on them though.
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There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".
Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.
Shitter was awful long before Musk
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There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".
Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.
@tante There's no good argument for legitimizing & whitewashing supremacist Afrikaner Musk's screwed fuX at all!
"...
The center said the suit was a baseless attempt by X and Musk to silence free speech.
U.S. Senior District Judge Charles Breyer dismissed the lawsuit in March 2024.“Sometimes it is unclear what is driving a litigation, and only by reading between the lines of a complaint can one attempt to surmise a plaintiff’s true purpose.
Other times, a complaint is so unabashedly and vociferously about one thing that there can be no mistaking that purpose.
This case represents the latter circumstance.
This case is about punishing the defendants for their speech,” the Bill Clinton appointee wrote in his ruling.
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https://www.courthousenews.com/x-asks-ninth-circuit-to-revive-data-scraping-suit-against-hate-speech-monitor/ -
There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".
Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.
@tante These are the same journalists who created and still maintain SubStack accounts to monetize their work despite it being known at the get-go to have paid nazis to post there. They will go to literally any radioactive place from which to earn a follower's eyeball.
That's why their industry is melting, in part. They're selecting their audience, and it's radioactive eyeballs.
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There was this consensus of not going to X after Elon Musk turned it into a right-wing hellhole but I see more and more especially journalists going back "because the AI people are there".
Yes, because the "AI" folks mostly agree with right wing talking points because that's what the whole idea of "AI" is build upon. That's a bad argument for relegitimizing X.
@tante right wing hellhole people / ai people venn diagram:
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I understand the pull to a certain degree, the pain. I walked away from over 30k followers on X which - if like me you have no other anchor of legitimacy - is a big deal. And I met friends there, peers. Twitter did a lot to get me where I am today. But I still wouldn't frequent a Nazi bar.
I'd be awfully worried for my safety, if I was getting followed by 30,000 Nazis. -
@tante 21k on fedi. 60% of the way back. and more of those are probably real
@glyph @tante the one problem with that metric is fedi tends to have a higher rate of fall off. People join, stay active for about a few months, then stop being active.
There is a sort of worrying consistency to the number of active users, despite people signing up all the time.
There are definitely a few factors to this, but it's something many of the devs connected to various parts are trying to figure out if they can improve. I think mastodon follow groups was one attempt at this.
