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Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

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  • inari@piefed.zipI inari@piefed.zip

    Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

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    olgratin_magmatoe@slrpnk.net
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    #21

    Respecting the property of waymo is too high a bar.

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    • M mac@mander.xyz

      Legally allowed, sure. “Welcome” is a stretch. lol

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      grue@lemmy.world
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      #22

      But drivers must love having cyclists share the lane with them: obviously, they oppose bike lanes because they can’t bear to be separated from us!

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      • T tangentism@beehaw.org

        Then Waymo shouldnt be surprised if cyclists destroy their vehicles because they can’t obey traffic regulations and observe basic human safety

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        frenchgeek@lemmy.ml
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        #23

        I wonder if the cars detect a flat or if they keep driving with one, or more…

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        • inari@piefed.zipI inari@piefed.zip

          Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

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          grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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          Doesn’t this kind of lock them out from a lot of markets?

          Seems like admitting defeat on self driving, you know the one we were suppose to have 8 years ago

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          • inari@piefed.zipI inari@piefed.zip

            Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

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            grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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            #25

            Now tell them how cyclists are technically entitled to the entire lane, but how that actually plays out is highly dynamic and relies on communication

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            • G grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works

              Doesn’t this kind of lock them out from a lot of markets?

              Seems like admitting defeat on self driving, you know the one we were suppose to have 8 years ago

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              axx@slrpnk.net
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              #26

              I don’t think that’s how it works. Decision-makers are rarely that principled. Instead, it’ll just part of the downsides “everyone needs to accept” as a tradeoff for this “inevitable technological progress”.

              Kranzberg’s “laws” of technology would like to say something here, but decision-makers can’t hear them over all the lobybing.

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              • F frenchgeek@lemmy.ml

                I wonder if the cars detect a flat or if they keep driving with one, or more…

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                axx@slrpnk.net
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                They surely detect flats, all modern cars are filled with sensors and do that. The question is more how many flats do they need to detect before calling for help.

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                • inari@piefed.zipI inari@piefed.zip

                  Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

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                  hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
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                  #28

                  a waymo on fire

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