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What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

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  • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

    @benroyce
    Saxony-Anhalt is one of five federal states in which the AfD is classified as a confirmed far-right extremist party from the Office for the Protection of the Constitution.
    Based on the experiences of National Socialism, our Basic Law expressly provides for the possibility of initiating proceedings to ban parties that act in a manner hostile to the constitution.

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    #32

    @benroyce
    A motion for such proceedings must be filed with the Federal Constitutional Court by the federal government _or_ the Bundesrat _or_ the Bundestag, which then reviews the facts of the case and, if warranted, issues a ban on the party.

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    • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

      @benroyce
      A motion for such proceedings must be filed with the Federal Constitutional Court by the federal government _or_ the Bundesrat _or_ the Bundestag, which then reviews the facts of the case and, if warranted, issues a ban on the party.

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      #33

      @benroyce
      However, none of the aforementioned institutions authorized to file such a motion has so far been able to bring itself to stop the neo-fascists, even though there have been—and continue to be—large demonstrations demanding precisely that.

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      • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

        @benroyce
        However, none of the aforementioned institutions authorized to file such a motion has so far been able to bring itself to stop the neo-fascists, even though there have been—and continue to be—large demonstrations demanding precisely that.

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        #34

        @benroyce
        Fun fact: A few days ago, the leading candidate of the fascists in Saxony-Anhalt was invited by a student representative to appear on a children’s program on public broadcasting (ÖRR) for an interview, during which he explained, among other things, that in the future, children with a migrant background would be taught in separate classes if his party came to power, because they would all have to leave anyway (be deported).

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        • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

          @benroyce
          Fun fact: A few days ago, the leading candidate of the fascists in Saxony-Anhalt was invited by a student representative to appear on a children’s program on public broadcasting (ÖRR) for an interview, during which he explained, among other things, that in the future, children with a migrant background would be taught in separate classes if his party came to power, because they would all have to leave anyway (be deported).

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          #35

          @benroyce
          However, none of the eligible institutions mentioned above has so far been able to bring itself to stop the neo-fascists, even though there have been—and continue to be—large demonstrations calling for exactly that.

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          • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

            @benroyce
            However, none of the eligible institutions mentioned above has so far been able to bring itself to stop the neo-fascists, even though there have been—and continue to be—large demonstrations calling for exactly that.

            5/

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            #36

            @benroyce
            Fun fact: A few days ago, the leading candidate of the fascists in Saxony-Anhalt was invited by a student representative to appear on a children’s program on public broadcasting (ÖRR) for an interview, during which he explained, among other things, that in the future, children with a migrant background would be taught in separate classes if his party came to power, because they would all have to leave anyway (be deported).

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            • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

              @benroyce
              Fun fact: A few days ago, the leading candidate of the fascists in Saxony-Anhalt was invited by a student representative to appear on a children’s program on public broadcasting (ÖRR) for an interview, during which he explained, among other things, that in the future, children with a migrant background would be taught in separate classes if his party came to power, because they would all have to leave anyway (be deported).

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              #37

              @benroyce
              Btw: Public broadcasting was established by the Allies after World War II as a non-commercial, independent broadcaster with a clearly defined educational mandate to promote democratic values. It is funded by license fees. So we’re all inevitably paying for Nazis to be constantly invited onto talk shows (and now even onto children’s television) to spread their poison.

              Germany 2026

              7/7

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              • grootinside@troet.cafeG grootinside@troet.cafe

                @benroyce

                Trying to follow local shitshows on the other side of the world is *not* ignorant.😉
                Most of us here don't know shit about what's really going on in the U.S. either.
                #NoKings ...
                We here keep getting focused on the horrorbaby. 🙄

                Here it's the same. Most of the many! protests against Nazis right in #SaxonyAnhalt "didn't make it" to any media.🤨 🤔

                That's why something like the fediverse got so important.

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                #38

                @grootinside

                as i said in a sister comment in this thread, i used to be friends (i moved) with a former bundeswehr guy from munich who quit and immigrated to the usa. he quit because they tried to station him in east germany and he said "fuck no." so my perception is also warped by the unkind opinions of a hot head bavarian guy

                this was 10 years ago. even 10 years ago he lamented there were new "brown shirts" as he said rising in germany again

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                • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

                  @benroyce
                  Btw: Public broadcasting was established by the Allies after World War II as a non-commercial, independent broadcaster with a clearly defined educational mandate to promote democratic values. It is funded by license fees. So we’re all inevitably paying for Nazis to be constantly invited onto talk shows (and now even onto children’s television) to spread their poison.

                  Germany 2026

                  7/7

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                  #39

                  @elala

                  it's the same in the usa

                  the centrist democrats just grin and continue on as if everything is normal. talking and dealing with outright fascists. plastic and spineless people

                  it's maddening

                  it's why here in the usa we need to take over the democratic party because third party doesn't work in our fucked up FPTP voting system. and we're making some movement. AOC, Mamdani, El-Sayed, etc

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

                    #AfD is poised to win the election in #SaxonyAnhalt on Sunday?

                    Fuck

                    That's former East Germany right? I sense a possible cultural spit with former West Germany. I could be wrong

                    Well, take it from this depressed and angry American: don't stop fighting

                    Flip it before the cancer grows

                    A lot of Americans just sort of gave up. It's maddening how easily so many just roll over. Don't do that

                    https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/05/europe/germany-state-election-afd-trump-russia-intl

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                    #40

                    @benroyce
                    you are wrong. The split exists but only in a sense that in East-Germany prople are not following politcal parties forever before they give up. Similar results can happen in the western part of the country. And the root cause is the disastrous ruling of F. Merz. Political values are completely eroded.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @elala

                      it's the same in the usa

                      the centrist democrats just grin and continue on as if everything is normal. talking and dealing with outright fascists. plastic and spineless people

                      it's maddening

                      it's why here in the usa we need to take over the democratic party because third party doesn't work in our fucked up FPTP voting system. and we're making some movement. AOC, Mamdani, El-Sayed, etc

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                      #41

                      @benroyce @elala

                      ✊

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                      • franckraisch@meinungsschubla.deF franckraisch@meinungsschubla.de

                        @benroyce
                        you are wrong. The split exists but only in a sense that in East-Germany prople are not following politcal parties forever before they give up. Similar results can happen in the western part of the country. And the root cause is the disastrous ruling of F. Merz. Political values are completely eroded.

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                        #42

                        @FranckRaisch

                        same here in the usa. spineless centrists don't act and are unable and unwilling to recognize and deal with the fascists

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @elala

                          it's the same in the usa

                          the centrist democrats just grin and continue on as if everything is normal. talking and dealing with outright fascists. plastic and spineless people

                          it's maddening

                          it's why here in the usa we need to take over the democratic party because third party doesn't work in our fucked up FPTP voting system. and we're making some movement. AOC, Mamdani, El-Sayed, etc

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                          #43

                          @benroyce
                          In Germany, all political parties—with the exception of “Die Linke”—have, over time, more or less jumped on the deportation bandwagon, and, unfortunately, a vocal anti-Semitic faction has established itself within “Die Linke,” so that the choices here now amount to choosing between the plague and cholera.🤪

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @FranckRaisch

                            same here in the usa. spineless centrists don't act and are unable and unwilling to recognize and deal with the fascists

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                            #44

                            @benroyce from time to time they kill a leftist here - this is to proof that they can still function

                            Anarchy is better than this

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                            • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

                              @benroyce
                              In Germany, all political parties—with the exception of “Die Linke”—have, over time, more or less jumped on the deportation bandwagon, and, unfortunately, a vocal anti-Semitic faction has established itself within “Die Linke,” so that the choices here now amount to choosing between the plague and cholera.🤪

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                              #45

                              @elala 😩

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @elala 😩

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                                #46

                                @benroyce
                                We even have our own little offshoot of the Heritage Foundation. They call themselves Republik21 and market themselves as a conservative think tank because that sounds nicer. But the playbook is the same—just tailored to the specific constitutional characteristics of Germany.

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                                • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

                                  @benroyce
                                  We even have our own little offshoot of the Heritage Foundation. They call themselves Republik21 and market themselves as a conservative think tank because that sounds nicer. But the playbook is the same—just tailored to the specific constitutional characteristics of Germany.

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                                  #47

                                  @elala this fucking world

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @elala this fucking world

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                                    #48

                                    @benroyce
                                    The financiers are the same ones, too: the fossil fuel industry, the arms manufacturers, and the tech fascists.

                                    Yes, fucking assholes.😑

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                                    • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

                                      @benroyce
                                      The financiers are the same ones, too: the fossil fuel industry, the arms manufacturers, and the tech fascists.

                                      Yes, fucking assholes.😑

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                                      #49

                                      @benroyce
                                      Oh, and by the way: R21, of course, also receives government funding, whereas funding for democracy projects is currently being cut or eliminated. Even the Anne Frank Educational Center has had its funding cut.

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                                      • elala@social.cologneE elala@social.cologne

                                        @benroyce
                                        Oh, and by the way: R21, of course, also receives government funding, whereas funding for democracy projects is currently being cut or eliminated. Even the Anne Frank Educational Center has had its funding cut.

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                                        #50

                                        @elala

                                        we are intent on relearning the worst things the hardest way

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

                                          #AfD is poised to win the election in #SaxonyAnhalt on Sunday?

                                          Fuck

                                          That's former East Germany right? I sense a possible cultural spit with former West Germany. I could be wrong

                                          Well, take it from this depressed and angry American: don't stop fighting

                                          Flip it before the cancer grows

                                          A lot of Americans just sort of gave up. It's maddening how easily so many just roll over. Don't do that

                                          https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/05/europe/germany-state-election-afd-trump-russia-intl

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                                          #51

                                          @benroyce yeah. this concerns a federal state in the former GDR—a failed experiment in socialism, at least in name—which was, in reality, a dictatorship marked by extreme surveillance, poverty, and automatic firing devices at the borders. Beginning in 1989, with the reunification of Germany, all means of production were taken over by the West and absorbed into the capitalist system. A few industrialists owned everything and left the land and its people, with no prospects, to fend for themselves. The young people moved away; the elderly stayed behind. It became the federal state with the oldest population and the lowest voter turnout.
                                          Conservative politicians, the wealthy, and their media celebrate capitalism and demonize left-wing ideologies as direct successors to the “socialist” dictatorship of the past.
                                          The result: a breeding ground for Nazis, fostered by conservatives and capitalists. Structurally and in terms of power politics, it’s comparable to the same shit in Germany a hundred years ago.
                                          I live in Hamburg in West Germany; I’m far left, and we’re watching the developments there with horror.

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