What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland
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@benroyce
you are wrong. The split exists but only in a sense that in East-Germany prople are not following politcal parties forever before they give up. Similar results can happen in the western part of the country. And the root cause is the disastrous ruling of F. Merz. Political values are completely eroded.same here in the usa. spineless centrists don't act and are unable and unwilling to recognize and deal with the fascists
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it's the same in the usa
the centrist democrats just grin and continue on as if everything is normal. talking and dealing with outright fascists. plastic and spineless people
it's maddening
it's why here in the usa we need to take over the democratic party because third party doesn't work in our fucked up FPTP voting system. and we're making some movement. AOC, Mamdani, El-Sayed, etc
@benroyce
In Germany, all political parties—with the exception of “Die Linke”—have, over time, more or less jumped on the deportation bandwagon, and, unfortunately, a vocal anti-Semitic faction has established itself within “Die Linke,” so that the choices here now amount to choosing between the plague and cholera.🤪 -
same here in the usa. spineless centrists don't act and are unable and unwilling to recognize and deal with the fascists
@benroyce from time to time they kill a leftist here - this is to proof that they can still function
Anarchy is better than this
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@benroyce
In Germany, all political parties—with the exception of “Die Linke”—have, over time, more or less jumped on the deportation bandwagon, and, unfortunately, a vocal anti-Semitic faction has established itself within “Die Linke,” so that the choices here now amount to choosing between the plague and cholera.🤪 -
@benroyce
We even have our own little offshoot of the Heritage Foundation. They call themselves Republik21 and market themselves as a conservative think tank because that sounds nicer. But the playbook is the same—just tailored to the specific constitutional characteristics of Germany. -
@benroyce
We even have our own little offshoot of the Heritage Foundation. They call themselves Republik21 and market themselves as a conservative think tank because that sounds nicer. But the playbook is the same—just tailored to the specific constitutional characteristics of Germany.@elala this fucking world
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@elala this fucking world
@benroyce
The financiers are the same ones, too: the fossil fuel industry, the arms manufacturers, and the tech fascists.Yes, fucking assholes.
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@benroyce
The financiers are the same ones, too: the fossil fuel industry, the arms manufacturers, and the tech fascists.Yes, fucking assholes.
@benroyce
Oh, and by the way: R21, of course, also receives government funding, whereas funding for democracy projects is currently being cut or eliminated. Even the Anne Frank Educational Center has had its funding cut. -
@benroyce
Oh, and by the way: R21, of course, also receives government funding, whereas funding for democracy projects is currently being cut or eliminated. Even the Anne Frank Educational Center has had its funding cut.we are intent on relearning the worst things the hardest way
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What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland
#AfD is poised to win the election in #SaxonyAnhalt on Sunday?
Fuck
That's former East Germany right? I sense a possible cultural spit with former West Germany. I could be wrong
Well, take it from this depressed and angry American: don't stop fighting
Flip it before the cancer grows
A lot of Americans just sort of gave up. It's maddening how easily so many just roll over. Don't do that
https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/05/europe/germany-state-election-afd-trump-russia-intl
@benroyce yeah. this concerns a federal state in the former GDR—a failed experiment in socialism, at least in name—which was, in reality, a dictatorship marked by extreme surveillance, poverty, and automatic firing devices at the borders. Beginning in 1989, with the reunification of Germany, all means of production were taken over by the West and absorbed into the capitalist system. A few industrialists owned everything and left the land and its people, with no prospects, to fend for themselves. The young people moved away; the elderly stayed behind. It became the federal state with the oldest population and the lowest voter turnout.
Conservative politicians, the wealthy, and their media celebrate capitalism and demonize left-wing ideologies as direct successors to the “socialist” dictatorship of the past.
The result: a breeding ground for Nazis, fostered by conservatives and capitalists. Structurally and in terms of power politics, it’s comparable to the same shit in Germany a hundred years ago.
I live in Hamburg in West Germany; I’m far left, and we’re watching the developments there with horror. -
@benroyce yeah. this concerns a federal state in the former GDR—a failed experiment in socialism, at least in name—which was, in reality, a dictatorship marked by extreme surveillance, poverty, and automatic firing devices at the borders. Beginning in 1989, with the reunification of Germany, all means of production were taken over by the West and absorbed into the capitalist system. A few industrialists owned everything and left the land and its people, with no prospects, to fend for themselves. The young people moved away; the elderly stayed behind. It became the federal state with the oldest population and the lowest voter turnout.
Conservative politicians, the wealthy, and their media celebrate capitalism and demonize left-wing ideologies as direct successors to the “socialist” dictatorship of the past.
The result: a breeding ground for Nazis, fostered by conservatives and capitalists. Structurally and in terms of power politics, it’s comparable to the same shit in Germany a hundred years ago.
I live in Hamburg in West Germany; I’m far left, and we’re watching the developments there with horror.It's so tragic that those who most need the policies of the left, are persuaded by the far right. I can think of lots of reasons these folks fall for this, but it doesn't reduce the tragedy.
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@RobynNuthall @danimo @benroyce
It's likely that the far-right extremists are the better liars
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@RobynNuthall @danimo @benroyce
It's likely that the far-right extremists are the better liars
of course
simple lies for simpletons is easy
but i wouldn't classify the left's "hope for the future with something better" as a worse kind of lie. although the far right does
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we are intent on relearning the worst things the hardest way
@benroyce
Climate collapse could throw a wrench in the fascists’ plans, because it will likely trigger mass migrations of unprecedented scale worldwide. Everyone will be constantly on the move, which could create anarchic structures and cost the despots their power. Then we’ll "just" have to make sure that good forms of anarchy develop, not the bad ones.
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of course
simple lies for simpletons is easy
but i wouldn't classify the left's "hope for the future with something better" as a worse kind of lie. although the far right does
@benroyce @RobynNuthall @danimo
The far-right likes to sell left-wing politics to simple-minded people as the ultimate evil, and they actually believe it. When racism is thrown into the mix, the simple-minded are almost completely convinced. It’s not much different here in Europe either.
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the pro-plutocrat fiscal policies and shitty cruel social "values" of the conservative creates the stage for the nazi
sure, sure. everything different from your view is either nazi or pro-nazi or pre-nazi.
Sometimes It seems to see some hair salon where some bunch of gossips says “fake boobs, fake boobs” or “surgery” or “botox” to any other woman they see.
Sorry, it’s boring, and losing. Since forever. Always.
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@benroyce
Climate collapse could throw a wrench in the fascists’ plans, because it will likely trigger mass migrations of unprecedented scale worldwide. Everyone will be constantly on the move, which could create anarchic structures and cost the despots their power. Then we’ll "just" have to make sure that good forms of anarchy develop, not the bad ones. 🤭to me, any sort of big economic downturn (such as the upcoming AI bubble burst or the much bigger much worse climate collapse) is just fertile mountains of anger to fuel more fascism
the problem is simple
when faced with suffering, even suffering *created* by fascists, people are angry and stupid and can be shaped by all the usual easy lies
the most potent feature of #fascism is anger and frustration is never married with intelligence
so this all over again:
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sure, sure. everything different from your view is either nazi or pro-nazi or pre-nazi.
Sometimes It seems to see some hair salon where some bunch of gossips says “fake boobs, fake boobs” or “surgery” or “botox” to any other woman they see.
Sorry, it’s boring, and losing. Since forever. Always.
i wouldn't describe accurately identifying the problem as boring
i would describe the usual reaction to identifying the problem as boring:
garden variety cynicism and perfectionism, yes you are right about that
if our car gets a flat tire, that's not boring. if our reaction is to throw up our hands and whine instead of fixing it, yes that's boring
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@benroyce yeah. this concerns a federal state in the former GDR—a failed experiment in socialism, at least in name—which was, in reality, a dictatorship marked by extreme surveillance, poverty, and automatic firing devices at the borders. Beginning in 1989, with the reunification of Germany, all means of production were taken over by the West and absorbed into the capitalist system. A few industrialists owned everything and left the land and its people, with no prospects, to fend for themselves. The young people moved away; the elderly stayed behind. It became the federal state with the oldest population and the lowest voter turnout.
Conservative politicians, the wealthy, and their media celebrate capitalism and demonize left-wing ideologies as direct successors to the “socialist” dictatorship of the past.
The result: a breeding ground for Nazis, fostered by conservatives and capitalists. Structurally and in terms of power politics, it’s comparable to the same shit in Germany a hundred years ago.
I live in Hamburg in West Germany; I’m far left, and we’re watching the developments there with horror. -
