Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be.
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Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.
Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.
@Jeroen89 The difference between 1850 and 1950 is apocalyptic. The extermination of trees for logging, the near extinction of the American chestnut trees, and the introduction of kudzu.
We’ve been tampering with forests for far longer though: https://www.americanforests.org/article/north-american-forests-in-the-age-of-man/
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@jrdepriest @footils @Jeroen89
I was brought up in the industrial West of Germany, but 40 years ago, even there a drive on the Autobahn at night meant you had to pull over regularly to clean all the dead insects off your windshield.
Nowadays I can drive for hours without a single bug hitting my car...
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@jrdepriest @footils @Jeroen89
I was brought up in the industrial West of Germany, but 40 years ago, even there a drive on the Autobahn at night meant you had to pull over regularly to clean all the dead insects off your windshield.
Nowadays I can drive for hours without a single bug hitting my car...
@ckd @jrdepriest @Jeroen89
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@Jeroen89 If you want a jungle, you need to let it be a jungle. There's no "carefully extracting some resources" or any such thing, it will destroy the jungle. (I use jungle in a generic way to mean "nature, undisturbed" if I may.) And that's why with capitalism, you cannot have jungles. All jungles will be "extracted for profit" because growing the jungle is an externalized (to the past) cost, not having the jungle is an externalized (to the future) cost, but profit is being made NOW. Want change? Gotta go chop down some rich people instead of trees, no way around it.
(Figuratively, of course. But chop you must.)@phf @Jeroen89 Actually, chopping down billionaires literally could be ethically justified... As long as you are environmentally aware, and make sure you dispose of the bodies in an environmentally friendly way. The effect of one billionaire on the world is more than a great number of the world's countries.
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@atlovato Only problem being that taking their money will not save the jungle.
@phf - Yeah; @ObsidianUrbex age has just begun and they don't care about you and I.
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Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.
Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.
@Jeroen89 Wenn "Umweltschützer" einen ihrer Meinung nach "ursprünglichen" oder "natürlichen" Zustand "wieder" herstellen wollen, wird auch oft nur Schaden angerichtet.
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@Jeroen89 is it ai generated picture? It contains a strange mixture of european and north american species, which may be typical nowadays, but not in 1800.
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@kete @sarae This specific look of cartoon illustration is very common among AI image generators. I think it's useful to be able to recognize because you really do start seeing it all over the place.
(Someone else in the mentions pointed out that this has an odd mix of North American and European animals, which isn't what you'd expect to see in an informative illustration created by an actual human.)
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Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.
Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.
@Jeroen89 I emailed this to Parklane Landscapes, "There is an interesting conversation on Mastodon social media about a graphic attributed to your organization. I have attached a link to the conversation. My question is was your graphic AI generated? It illustrates a concept we should be aware of, but using AI on a regular basis can be questionable for "nature workers" due to the negative environmental costs of implementing the technology. I would appreciate it if you were to clarify this."
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Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.
Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.
@Jeroen89 Good for educational classes on the environment, notably to kids. It creates awareness.
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@Jeroen89 I emailed this to Parklane Landscapes, "There is an interesting conversation on Mastodon social media about a graphic attributed to your organization. I have attached a link to the conversation. My question is was your graphic AI generated? It illustrates a concept we should be aware of, but using AI on a regular basis can be questionable for "nature workers" due to the negative environmental costs of implementing the technology. I would appreciate it if you were to clarify this."
@gdjp Thank you. Since the picture had their label on it, I didn't think of putting it in the reference.
Likewise I didn't think to check if it's AI made. To me, it supports the message. And in this case, it's clear (being cartoonish).
But next time I will check it and add it if I think it's AI generated -
@gdjp @misty @kete @sarae Glitches. Is that only me ? Fish in the sky, lumpy damselfly, ...a flying toilet broom ?
Idk.
Also how the grasse isn't there in 2020 : why ? If anything the removal of trees favored grasslands (because access to light).
And what about the white stuff you can see everywhere, snow remnant ? Dust ? Pollen ? >_>
If it's not AI I'm very curious about the alien thought process at work and story behind all this.
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@roadskater @Jeroen89 my last long trip, I had hardly any hit
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Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.
Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.
@Jeroen89 this is why we need large regions with untouched diversity - rainforests and wetlands, deserts & northern forests - so nature can trive. Where we must not destroy everything.
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There is no doubt that it is AI-generated. If you look closely, there's a depiction of a flying fish (Exocoetidae), which is native to the tropic and subtropic oceans, and not – you know – temperate forests.
Also, the tandem dragonfly (Anax tandemicus) went extinct in the 1740's.
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@souldessin but the state parks aren't sufficient. The more we 'develop', the worse it becomes.
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Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.
Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.
@Jeroen89 Do this with public space, please.
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@Jeroen89 If you want a jungle, you need to let it be a jungle. There's no "carefully extracting some resources" or any such thing, it will destroy the jungle. (I use jungle in a generic way to mean "nature, undisturbed" if I may.) And that's why with capitalism, you cannot have jungles. All jungles will be "extracted for profit" because growing the jungle is an externalized (to the past) cost, not having the jungle is an externalized (to the future) cost, but profit is being made NOW. Want change? Gotta go chop down some rich people instead of trees, no way around it.
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@gdjp @misty @kete @sarae you can't really. At this point your best bet is to ask the person who posted/claims to have made it and even then they might just lie to you because the people who do this and aren't full-on AIbros harassing artists are deeply ashamed of it because they know what the public opinion is 🥲
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@Kurt Ah yes, the ever-present myth of humans making nature more natural by (carefully?) editing it. Because nature alone is "too dumb" to do it properly. Remind you of other colonial thinking patterns? Yikes.
