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  3. I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

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  • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
    Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
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    #30

    @michael @fesshole Depends if hatches are doors - in which case, cars have... er, more than 4. Ish.

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    • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

      I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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      #31

      @fesshole
      Hmm 🤔
      1 on a unicycle
      2 on a bike
      3 or 4 wheels and 2 or 4 doors on a car
      Lorries are dependant on wheel base and class
      Planes multiple wheels and doors
      A boat has doors, but if it carries cars, bikes, lorries, vans and a unicycle it has a lot of both
      A house has doors, but if it has a water wheel, it has a wheel
      The London eye is a wheel but has doors
      Fairs have Ferris wheels, the ticket booth has a door
      The Doors (great band)
      and Huxley gave us the Doors of Perception.
      - so Doors🤣

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      • anke@social.scribblers.clubA anke@social.scribblers.club

        @michael @fesshole
        I currently sit on a chair with 5 wheels, and there are small furniture pieces in this room with a total of 18 wheels...
        But also 8 cabinet doors.
        I don't think it's that trivial.

        ...also, do mouse wheels count?

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        #32

        @Anke @michael @fesshole These ones sure do.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @fesshole

          last night i was in a conversation with someone right here on mastodon and as we discussed the topic they posted a screenshot of them asking chatgpt a question on the topic

          right here on mastodon

          we're so fucking doomed

          people's brains are turning to mush

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          #33

          @benroyce @fesshole If all you have is natural stupidity, there's more than one motivation to resort to this.

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          • lunarloony@dosgame.clubL lunarloony@dosgame.club

            @michael @fesshole Depends if hatches are doors - in which case, cars have... er, more than 4. Ish.

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            #34

            @lunarloony @michael @fesshole

            So... this depends on what we define as wheel, as many things inside a normal household contain wheels for mechanical purposes. Doors, otoh, are not used for half as many things. So if we go by that logic, I would say that there are many more wheels on earth than doors.

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            • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
              Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
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              #35

              @michael @fesshole truck doors (3) outnumbered by wheels (6, 10, 18). Schools & Commercial buildings are peppered with doors.

              Shopping carts, train cars, wheeled appliances, wheeled furniture, and many tools & toys have far more wheels than doors, and are in homes by vast numbers. Once I start considering all of those wheels, I can count my home’s doors in moments but find myself unable to enumerate all the wheels tucked away in odd use cases in that house.

              How narrowly do we define wheels? Flywheels? Toothed wheels (gears)? Pulleys or wheels holding belts?

              Cars and other motors have flywheels, gear works are full of wheels, wheels persist in clocks and watches. A big retail Hot Wheels display at Christmas countermands the doors of a small city. Pumps, turbines, water meters and anemometers rely on wheels.

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              • hisvirusness@mastodon.socialH hisvirusness@mastodon.social

                @benroyce Whenever someone posts a Gemini screenshot as proof, I always have to ask, "You don't realize how much of a self-own that is, do you?" Right over their heads.

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                #36

                @HisVirusness @benroyce Show them this

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                • lunarloony@dosgame.clubL lunarloony@dosgame.club

                  @michael @fesshole Depends if hatches are doors - in which case, cars have... er, more than 4. Ish.

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                  #37

                  @lunarloony @michael @fesshole Similarly, there are multiple interior mechanism, including the engine that contain multiple wheels.

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                  • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #38

                    @solearther @Cowabbie @fesshole and the spare wheel in the boot?

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                    • edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE edgeofeurope@mastodon.social

                      @HisVirusness @benroyce Show them this

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                      #39

                      @edgeofeurope @HisVirusness

                      but my chats with AI are my entire identity, and my entire thought process. who am i if you deny me that? (/s)

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                      • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

                        @michael @fesshole truck doors (3) outnumbered by wheels (6, 10, 18). Schools & Commercial buildings are peppered with doors.

                        Shopping carts, train cars, wheeled appliances, wheeled furniture, and many tools & toys have far more wheels than doors, and are in homes by vast numbers. Once I start considering all of those wheels, I can count my home’s doors in moments but find myself unable to enumerate all the wheels tucked away in odd use cases in that house.

                        How narrowly do we define wheels? Flywheels? Toothed wheels (gears)? Pulleys or wheels holding belts?

                        Cars and other motors have flywheels, gear works are full of wheels, wheels persist in clocks and watches. A big retail Hot Wheels display at Christmas countermands the doors of a small city. Pumps, turbines, water meters and anemometers rely on wheels.

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                        #40

                        @cascheranno @michael @fesshole

                        Well, OK, Wheelie McWheelface.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @edgeofeurope @HisVirusness

                          but my chats with AI are my entire identity, and my entire thought process. who am i if you deny me that? (/s)

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                          #41

                          @benroyce @HisVirusness Follow-up question: Do his current training routines involve his anus?

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                          • saxnot@chaos.socialS saxnot@chaos.social

                            @fesshole does ATPase count as wheel?

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                            #42

                            @saxnot @fesshole does a voltage gated ion channel count as a door?

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                            • goblinquester@dice.campG goblinquester@dice.camp

                              @fesshole Then I take it as a sign of health that I didn't think of asking LLM about it until I arrived at your mention of it

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                              #43

                              @GoblinQuester @fesshole +1

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                              • edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE edgeofeurope@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce @HisVirusness Follow-up question: Do his current training routines involve his anus?

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                                #44

                                @edgeofeurope @HisVirusness

                                The world lives in the shadow of Mark Zuckerberg's anus

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                                • normandunbar@mastodon.scotN normandunbar@mastodon.scot

                                  @Anke @michael @fesshole Plus the two wheels inside the mouse that determine X and Y movement. (LED mouses need not apply!)

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                                  #45

                                  @Anke @michael @fesshole Aeroplane wheels. Some of those big ones have hundreds! (Antonov, Galaxy) Plus those low loader trucks and trailers with around a million wheels!

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                                  • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                    I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                                    #46

                                    @fesshole Wheels. Many things have doors but no obvious wheels (houses, f'rex) but many houses also contain wheels — in the form of toys, collectables, model cars/planes/trains that have functioning wheels but non-functioning doors. Also, depending on if an entrance needs a solid covering to be a door, then that also discounts parts of the world where fabric or beads are used as doors, along with any open doorways.

                                    Only a moron would ask chatGPT when it's far more interesting to think.

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                                    • anke@social.scribblers.clubA anke@social.scribblers.club

                                      @michael @fesshole
                                      I currently sit on a chair with 5 wheels, and there are small furniture pieces in this room with a total of 18 wheels...
                                      But also 8 cabinet doors.
                                      I don't think it's that trivial.

                                      ...also, do mouse wheels count?

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                                      #47

                                      @Anke @michael @fesshole

                                      Most office chairs have double wheels. One each side with the support in the middle.

                                      So 2*5 = 10 wheels.

                                      Then there are all sorts of wheel like things in industrial processes.

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                                      • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                        I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                                        #48

                                        Everyone is forgetting to count the little doors on advent calendars.

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                                        • normandunbar@mastodon.scotN normandunbar@mastodon.scot

                                          @Anke @michael @fesshole Plus the two wheels inside the mouse that determine X and Y movement. (LED mouses need not apply!)

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                                          #49

                                          @NormanDunbar @Anke @michael @fesshole I assumed they were talking about exercise wheels 🤣
                                          Edit: like this

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