#CrossBorderRail #LongestTrainEU Record Attempt Train 4 of 18R 741515:40 Umeå Östra - Sundsvall C 18:39Norrtåg
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So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight
How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon
Ah no
The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!
@jon this is why I went via Switzerland on my way back from Barcelona. I cannot get my head round what SNCF call a timetable.
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@jon ... in germany we learned, that all solutions outside of DB are better ...
@lobingera @jon at least DB attempt to run trains at useful times. SNCF just deletes them from the schedule at first difficulty. If they even made it onto a schedule.
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@jon ... in germany we learned, that all solutions outside of DB are better ...
@lobingera Believe it or not, but it can be worse… And bahn.de is still the best place to look upp train schedules in my opinion. Easy to use and you can find most trains in Europe there. @jon
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@jon ... in germany we learned, that all solutions outside of DB are better ...
@lobingera In this case it is not true. DB Navigator is *miles* ahead of anything SNCF can make.
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So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight
How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon
Ah no
The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!
@jon In case TGV 9560 to Paris is delayed (only if, probably not), you could catch a southbound intercité de nuit from Paris.
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So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight
How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon
Ah no
The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!
@jon 20 years ago there was also a night train Strasbourg-Nice. Of course that one is also long gone. Was my first night train. Entered in rainy Strasbourg ~18 degrees. Woke up in the morning to see (and smell!) lavender in the sun. Awesome!
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So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight
How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon
Ah no
The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!
@jon "The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15"
No train at 19:00? Ah, a Teddy Bears' Picnic train service:
"At six o'clock their Mommies and Daddies
Will take them home to bed
Because they're tired little Teddy Bears" -
@sebwilken @jon and arrival in Copenhagen around 8:00 would be tough because of the amount of trains during rush hour I suppose.
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@jon In case TGV 9560 to Paris is delayed (only if, probably not), you could catch a southbound intercité de nuit from Paris.
@RensBloom Nope. Different Paris terminals. Not allowed. RER is not Single European Rail Area.
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@lobingera In this case it is not true. DB Navigator is *miles* ahead of anything SNCF can make.
@jon @lobingera Is that DBNav on android? I don’t think I can get the ios version to show a screen like that…
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@sebwilken @jon and arrival in Copenhagen around 8:00 would be tough because of the amount of trains during rush hour I suppose.
@grlodi @sebwilken Loads of SJ's night train carriages lack approval for anywhere other than Sweden. And there might be loading gauge issues too.
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@jon @lobingera Is that DBNav on android? I don’t think I can get the ios version to show a screen like that…
@moof @lobingera In a web browser on Mac
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@jon "The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15"
No train at 19:00? Ah, a Teddy Bears' Picnic train service:
"At six o'clock their Mommies and Daddies
Will take them home to bed
Because they're tired little Teddy Bears"@TimWardCam @jon I'm adding that to my summary phrases for pathetic transport, alongside "lethally pantomime junction layout" and "Cycleway Resembling A Pavement"
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@TimWardCam @jon I'm adding that to my summary phrases for pathetic transport, alongside "lethally pantomime junction layout" and "Cycleway Resembling A Pavement"
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@jon ... in germany we learned, that all solutions outside of DB are better ...
@lobingera @jon Thus you obviously never tried to use SNCF-connect.
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@grlodi @sebwilken Loads of SJ's night train carriages lack approval for anywhere other than Sweden. And there might be loading gauge issues too.
@jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.
Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.
@Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong
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@moof @lobingera In a web browser on Mac
@jon @moof @lobingera They seem to have added this sidebar thingy with options to the web version just a few days ago
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@jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.
Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.
@Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong
@stefanlindbohm @grlodi @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom Yes, there were plenty of WL4 in the composition! (I was in one!)
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@TimWardCam @jon ah, yes, let's credit Colin Rosenstiel when it's due.
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@jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.
Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.
@Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong
@stefanlindbohm Outside Sweden and Norway, but apart from that correct AFAIK. As long as we don't count the ones that have been bought/leased recently by SJ and Snälltåget. @jon @grlodi @sebwilken
