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#CrossBorderRail #LongestTrainEU Record Attempt Train 4 of 18R 741515:40 Umeå Östra - Sundsvall C 18:39Norrtåg

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight

    How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon

    Ah no

    The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬

    Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!

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    #181

    @jon 20 years ago there was also a night train Strasbourg-Nice. Of course that one is also long gone. Was my first night train. Entered in rainy Strasbourg ~18 degrees. Woke up in the morning to see (and smell!) lavender in the sun. Awesome!

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight

      How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon

      Ah no

      The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬

      Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!

      timwardcam@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #182

      @jon "The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15"

      No train at 19:00? Ah, a Teddy Bears' Picnic train service:

      "At six o'clock their Mommies and Daddies
      Will take them home to bed
      Because they're tired little Teddy Bears"

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      • sebwilken@mastodon.socialS sebwilken@mastodon.social

        @grlodi @jon That would be nice, also marketing wise. But I suspect that the hop over the sund, crossing a border, causes a lot of operational trouble.

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        #183

        @sebwilken @jon and arrival in Copenhagen around 8:00 would be tough because of the amount of trains during rush hour I suppose.

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        • rensbloom@zug.networkR rensbloom@zug.network

          @jon In case TGV 9560 to Paris is delayed (only if, probably not), you could catch a southbound intercité de nuit from Paris.

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          #184

          @RensBloom Nope. Different Paris terminals. Not allowed. RER is not Single European Rail Area.

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            @lobingera In this case it is not true. DB Navigator is *miles* ahead of anything SNCF can make.

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            #185

            @jon @lobingera Is that DBNav on android? I don’t think I can get the ios version to show a screen like that…

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            • grlodi@mastodon.socialG grlodi@mastodon.social

              @sebwilken @jon and arrival in Copenhagen around 8:00 would be tough because of the amount of trains during rush hour I suppose.

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              #186

              @grlodi @sebwilken Loads of SJ's night train carriages lack approval for anywhere other than Sweden. And there might be loading gauge issues too.

              stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.seJ 2 Replies Last reply
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              • moof@cupoftea.socialM moof@cupoftea.social

                @jon @lobingera Is that DBNav on android? I don’t think I can get the ios version to show a screen like that…

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                #187

                @moof @lobingera In a web browser on Mac

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                • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                  @jon "The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15"

                  No train at 19:00? Ah, a Teddy Bears' Picnic train service:

                  "At six o'clock their Mommies and Daddies
                  Will take them home to bed
                  Because they're tired little Teddy Bears"

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                  #188

                  @TimWardCam @jon I'm adding that to my summary phrases for pathetic transport, alongside "lethally pantomime junction layout" and "Cycleway Resembling A Pavement"

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                  • mjr@masto.bikeM mjr@masto.bike

                    @TimWardCam @jon I'm adding that to my summary phrases for pathetic transport, alongside "lethally pantomime junction layout" and "Cycleway Resembling A Pavement"

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                    #189

                    @mjr @jon I should have credited:

                    The late Colin Rosenstiel regularly used it about bus services - I don't know whether he invented it.

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                    • lobingera@chaos.socialL lobingera@chaos.social

                      @jon ... in germany we learned, that all solutions outside of DB are better ...

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                      #190

                      @lobingera @jon Thus you obviously never tried to use SNCF-connect.

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        @grlodi @sebwilken Loads of SJ's night train carriages lack approval for anywhere other than Sweden. And there might be loading gauge issues too.

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                        #191

                        @jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.

                        Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.

                        @Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong 🙂

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @moof @lobingera In a web browser on Mac

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                          #192

                          @jon @moof @lobingera They seem to have added this sidebar thingy with options to the web version just a few days ago

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                          • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                            @jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.

                            Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.

                            @Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong 🙂

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                            #193

                            @stefanlindbohm @grlodi @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom Yes, there were plenty of WL4 in the composition! (I was in one!)

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                            • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                              @mjr @jon I should have credited:

                              The late Colin Rosenstiel regularly used it about bus services - I don't know whether he invented it.

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                              #194

                              @TimWardCam @jon ah, yes, let's credit Colin Rosenstiel when it's due.

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                              • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                                @jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.

                                Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.

                                @Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong 🙂

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                                #195

                                @stefanlindbohm Outside Sweden and Norway, but apart from that correct AFAIK. As long as we don't count the ones that have been bought/leased recently by SJ and Snälltåget. @jon @grlodi @sebwilken

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  @grlodi @sebwilken Loads of SJ's night train carriages lack approval for anywhere other than Sweden. And there might be loading gauge issues too.

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                                  #196

                                  @jon Yes, the 1980s generation of carriages (BC4, WL4, WL6 and more) were built to take advantage of the larger Swedish loading gauge. While the Öresund bridge and tunnel has a large loading gauge, it would probably require a bit of work to be able to run them all the way to Hovedbanegården.

                                  The carriages also lack emergency brake override required across Öresund and are only built for 1,000 V 16 2⁄3 Hz power. @grlodi @sebwilken

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight

                                    How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon

                                    Ah no

                                    The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬

                                    Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!

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                                    #197

                                    @jon

                                    Train to Genève, there's song for that

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RP0g_44_-M

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight

                                      How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon

                                      Ah no

                                      The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬

                                      Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!

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                                      #198

                                      So Rick Minnich (the cameraman following me) and I were still smiling at Padborg! Thanks @Pepijn for the pic! #LongestTrainEU

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        So Rick Minnich (the cameraman following me) and I were still smiling at Padborg! Thanks @Pepijn for the pic! #LongestTrainEU

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                                        #199

                                        @jon @Pepijn awesome

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          So Rick Minnich (the cameraman following me) and I were still smiling at Padborg! Thanks @Pepijn for the pic! #LongestTrainEU

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                                          #200

                                          @jon @Pepijn

                                          Thanks for the photo. I've know Rick Minnich for some 30+ years, when he was still at film school. From working with him on film festivals and our exchanges throughout the years I have the impression that he would make a good travel companion for this crazy trip!
                                          And he also is a documentary director and not just a camera operator.

                                          All the best for the next legs of the trip!

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