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how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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  • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

    @be @madengineering @aeva unfortunately, for surveillance, but nonetheless

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    #25

    @be @madengineering @aeva the career IRS workers are largely still there

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    • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

      @be @madengineering @aeva the IRS is more important than you would expect

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      #26

      @hipsterelectron @be @aeva The government has plans ready to collect taxes in the apocalypse, so yeah, they are ready to operate on paper, with candles, writing with goose quills if need be. The world literally ending would not stop them.

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      • madengineering@hachyderm.ioM madengineering@hachyderm.io

        @be @hipsterelectron @aeva Banks knowing how much money you've deposited, and thus how much you can demand back from them, is serious business for banks.
        Wouldn't want me to withdraw a million dollars that I don't actually have now, would you?

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        #27

        @madengineering @hipsterelectron @aeva someone should uh, lose those records in the Department of Education

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        • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

          @madengineering @hipsterelectron @aeva someone should uh, lose those records in the Department of Education

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          #28

          @madengineering @hipsterelectron @aeva Something tells me health insurance companies aren't as serious about having their records in order.

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          • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

            @hipsterelectron @madengineering @aeva yeah that's why I wouldn't be surprised if DOGE conveniently lost those paper records for Elon Musk

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            #29

            @be @madengineering @aeva this stuff is vital to the functioning of a state. it would harm the state more than anything else to lose it. records were largely not lost to musk but leaked to private individuals who shouldn't have had access

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            • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

              @madengineering @hipsterelectron @aeva Something tells me health insurance companies aren't as serious about having their records in order.

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              #30

              @be @madengineering @aeva i think corps are far more vulnerable than the state. corps die all the time

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              • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                @be @madengineering @aeva i think corps are far more vulnerable than the state. corps die all the time

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                #31

                @hipsterelectron @madengineering @aeva the numbers in health insurance land are all totally fake anyway. If you ask a doctor how much something would cost, they can't answer because they legit don't know and don't even know how to find out.

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                • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                  @be @madengineering @aeva i think corps are far more vulnerable than the state. corps die all the time

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                  #32

                  @hipsterelectron @be @aeva The physical manifestation of a corporation is a piece of paper, and if you were to get your hands on it, yeah, you could break a corporation in half with almost no effort at all. Fighting the lawyer guarding it would be kind of tricky, though.

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                  • madengineering@hachyderm.ioM madengineering@hachyderm.io

                    @hipsterelectron @be @aeva The physical manifestation of a corporation is a piece of paper, and if you were to get your hands on it, yeah, you could break a corporation in half with almost no effort at all. Fighting the lawyer guarding it would be kind of tricky, though.

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                    #33

                    @madengineering @be @aeva i have defeated harvard legal scholars before and i could lay waste to a revolving-door corporate scumbag

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                    • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                      @madengineering @be @aeva i have defeated harvard legal scholars before and i could lay waste to a revolving-door corporate scumbag

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                      #34

                      @hipsterelectron @be @aeva Sounds like there will be a big ink bath on our hands then.

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                      • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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                        #35

                        @aeva ben kingsley tried but robert redford stopped him 😔 https://youtu.be/uBM_0kLbdb4

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                        • howtophil@mastodon.socialH howtophil@mastodon.social

                          @madengineering @aeva It requires a concerted effort of an army of hackers/social-engineers to slowly overthrow the banking infrastructure over the course of decades. I, of course, have nothing to do with any such plan, and it... is... completely... fictional

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                          #36

                          @howtophil @madengineering @aeva

                          all knowledge disavowed, and all hardware to do said crimes exploded

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                          • cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC cyberquixote@infosec.exchange

                            @howtophil @madengineering @aeva

                            all knowledge disavowed, and all hardware to do said crimes exploded

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                            #37

                            @cyberquixote @howtophil @aeva If anyone asks, the exploded hardware in my house was me trying to test my antilogic computer out in a cave, it failed, and I'm just trying to clean up properly and not pollute the environment, please don't tell the insurance company.

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                            • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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                              #38

                              @aeva
                              Hi, backend dev for SEC-compliant enterprise NAT here.

                              Basically because the record keeping laws in place to guard against financial fraud in major institutions also mandate a level of data redundancy and immutability that incidentally guards against such tampering to a level that approaches the US military. Every file creation, update, delete is revision controlled.

                              Imagine a fictional financial institution, let's call them Jigglypuff's Professional Money Cabal. First, they don't even have root-user access on their own storage. They can't override the legally mandated retention policy -- even in the off-site backup systems -- without a kernel patch that can't be installed unless it's signed with their storage manufacturer's private key. And at the first sign of compromise, the Cabal runbook is to just immediately flatten the whole thing, reinstall a clean system, and restore from the nearest geo.

                              Even if you go full Fight Club and physically destroy the buildings, in multiple cities, they've got another fully redundant and air gapped disaster recovery storage system literally in a bunker underneath a Colorado mountain.

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                              • madengineering@hachyderm.ioM madengineering@hachyderm.io

                                @cyberquixote @howtophil @aeva If anyone asks, the exploded hardware in my house was me trying to test my antilogic computer out in a cave, it failed, and I'm just trying to clean up properly and not pollute the environment, please don't tell the insurance company.

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                                #39

                                @madengineering @howtophil @aeva

                                what exploded hardware?

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                                • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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                                  #40

                                  @aeva I think it's because a choice between cashing bug bounties vs. someone putting a bounty on your head, sadly

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                                  • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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                                    #41

                                    man, there's nothing sadder than people going to bat for the criminals who know in their hearts that better things aren't possible and just set their aim at the little people instead

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                                    • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      man, there's nothing sadder than people going to bat for the criminals who know in their hearts that better things aren't possible and just set their aim at the little people instead

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                                      #42

                                      anthropic and nvidia *wouldn't even notice if you robbed them*

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                                      • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        anthropic and nvidia *wouldn't even notice if you robbed them*

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                                        #43

                                        @aeva everyone in your replies is talking about the IRS and stuff having crazy security which is fair. but that's different from History's Most Engorged Startups

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                                          #44

                                          @aeva So, trying to hack banks to delete all evidence of every debt would be cool, but, it's kind of a self-sacrifice option and you probably only get one shot at it.

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