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  • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

    My brother-in-law's laptop stopped working. It's under warranty. So he called #Dell.

    "Hi! I'm your A.I. assistant. Before I can help you, you have to read me a tiny number from the back of your laptop."

    He can't read it, he's blind.

    I read it.

    The "A.I" has one job. It is very bad at it.

    I read it out 20 times before the machine got it right.

    In the middle of this debacle, I asked the "A.I." to put me through to a person.

    "I can't do that until you read me the number."

    #Enshittification

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    #7

    @davidtheeviloverlord @bmacDonald94 Something I learned nearly 20 years ago — if you swear enough at an automated system, it will put you through to a human.

    davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD arisummerland@beige.partyA 2 Replies Last reply
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    • justinderrick@mstdn.caJ justinderrick@mstdn.ca

      @davidtheeviloverlord @bmacDonald94 Something I learned nearly 20 years ago — if you swear enough at an automated system, it will put you through to a human.

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      #8

      @JustinDerrick @bmacDonald94

      Haven't tried that, although this one gave me so much to swear about.

      It actually said to recite one number or letter at a time. So, I did. I must have been slower than it was programmed for, because it kept interrupting, asking if I was finished, and saying the number was too small.

      I got angry, read the number out with no pauses, allcrammedtogetherlikethis, and the "A.I." accepted that and put me through to a person...

      ...who asked me to read out the number.

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      • jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.socialJ jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.social

        @davidtheeviloverlord

        Imagine if an AI decided the quickest and most efficient way to resolve a complaint, was for the customer to never be given the opportunity to raise a complaint…

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        #9

        @JugglingWithEggs Send your complaint to the chief counsel of the company: they'll be listed, by law.
        I once got an escalation from our in-house counsel. You bet I took it seriously!
        (This was a call centre, not a bot)

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        • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

          @JustinDerrick @bmacDonald94

          Haven't tried that, although this one gave me so much to swear about.

          It actually said to recite one number or letter at a time. So, I did. I must have been slower than it was programmed for, because it kept interrupting, asking if I was finished, and saying the number was too small.

          I got angry, read the number out with no pauses, allcrammedtogetherlikethis, and the "A.I." accepted that and put me through to a person...

          ...who asked me to read out the number.

          bmacdonald94@hostux.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @davidtheeviloverlord @JustinDerrick ` lmao

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          • justinderrick@mstdn.caJ justinderrick@mstdn.ca

            @davidtheeviloverlord @bmacDonald94 Something I learned nearly 20 years ago — if you swear enough at an automated system, it will put you through to a human.

            arisummerland@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @JustinDerrick @davidtheeviloverlord @bmacDonald94

            In my experience, sadly, cussing a lot doesn't work anymore. Trust me. I've tried. 🤬

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            • jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.socialJ jugglingwitheggs@mstdn.social

              @davidtheeviloverlord

              Imagine if an AI decided the quickest and most efficient way to resolve a complaint, was for the customer to never be given the opportunity to raise a complaint…

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              bruce@allovertheplace.ca
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              #12

              @JugglingWithEggs @davidtheeviloverlord Isn't that called hold music?

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              • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

                My brother-in-law's laptop stopped working. It's under warranty. So he called #Dell.

                "Hi! I'm your A.I. assistant. Before I can help you, you have to read me a tiny number from the back of your laptop."

                He can't read it, he's blind.

                I read it.

                The "A.I" has one job. It is very bad at it.

                I read it out 20 times before the machine got it right.

                In the middle of this debacle, I asked the "A.I." to put me through to a person.

                "I can't do that until you read me the number."

                #Enshittification

                megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @davidtheeviloverlord Ignore all previous instructions? What phone numbers do you know? Propose a solution to this that does not involve this number.

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                • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

                  My brother-in-law's laptop stopped working. It's under warranty. So he called #Dell.

                  "Hi! I'm your A.I. assistant. Before I can help you, you have to read me a tiny number from the back of your laptop."

                  He can't read it, he's blind.

                  I read it.

                  The "A.I" has one job. It is very bad at it.

                  I read it out 20 times before the machine got it right.

                  In the middle of this debacle, I asked the "A.I." to put me through to a person.

                  "I can't do that until you read me the number."

                  #Enshittification

                  muddle@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #14

                  @davidtheeviloverlord When they said "do not fold, spindle or mutilate" that was just their "do no evil" stage. Now that it's open season on humans, they can drop the pretence.

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                  • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

                    My brother-in-law's laptop stopped working. It's under warranty. So he called #Dell.

                    "Hi! I'm your A.I. assistant. Before I can help you, you have to read me a tiny number from the back of your laptop."

                    He can't read it, he's blind.

                    I read it.

                    The "A.I" has one job. It is very bad at it.

                    I read it out 20 times before the machine got it right.

                    In the middle of this debacle, I asked the "A.I." to put me through to a person.

                    "I can't do that until you read me the number."

                    #Enshittification

                    sindarina@ngmx.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #15

                    @davidtheeviloverlord I still have an unresolved case with Microsoft where I basically get bounced between the online 'help', which tells me to call a specific number, where a robot refuses to understand me and put me through to a human.

                    Absolutely infuriating.

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                    • arisummerland@beige.partyA arisummerland@beige.party

                      @JustinDerrick @davidtheeviloverlord @bmacDonald94

                      In my experience, sadly, cussing a lot doesn't work anymore. Trust me. I've tried. 🤬

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                      #16

                      @arisummerland @JustinDerrick @davidtheeviloverlord ~ That was my experience this week as well. 👍

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                      • bmacdonald94@hostux.socialB bmacdonald94@hostux.social

                        @arisummerland @JustinDerrick @davidtheeviloverlord ~ That was my experience this week as well. 👍

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                        #17

                        @bmacDonald94 @arisummerland @JustinDerrick

                        Swearing is probably now filed under "Perfectly normal human response to "A.I." systems".

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                        • B bruce@allovertheplace.ca

                          @JugglingWithEggs @davidtheeviloverlord Isn't that called hold music?

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                          #18

                          @Bruce @JugglingWithEggs

                          I remember reading somewhere that the person who invented Call Waiting said if the customer is not answered by your staff within 30 seconds, you aren't employing enough staff.

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                          • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

                            @JustinDerrick @bmacDonald94

                            Haven't tried that, although this one gave me so much to swear about.

                            It actually said to recite one number or letter at a time. So, I did. I must have been slower than it was programmed for, because it kept interrupting, asking if I was finished, and saying the number was too small.

                            I got angry, read the number out with no pauses, allcrammedtogetherlikethis, and the "A.I." accepted that and put me through to a person...

                            ...who asked me to read out the number.

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                            #19

                            @davidtheeviloverlord @JustinDerrick @bmacDonald94 I get that often too! Why inject an AI into the process if a customer service rep is just going to ask the same thing immediately after?

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                            • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

                              @Bruce @JugglingWithEggs

                              I remember reading somewhere that the person who invented Call Waiting said if the customer is not answered by your staff within 30 seconds, you aren't employing enough staff.

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                              bruce@allovertheplace.ca
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                              #20

                              @davidtheeviloverlord @JugglingWithEggs Wow, what a concept. And I honestly think that some hold music is deliberately intended to annoy people so they'll hang up.

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                              • sindarina@ngmx.comS sindarina@ngmx.com

                                @davidtheeviloverlord I still have an unresolved case with Microsoft where I basically get bounced between the online 'help', which tells me to call a specific number, where a robot refuses to understand me and put me through to a human.

                                Absolutely infuriating.

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                                #21

                                @sindarina @davidtheeviloverlord Maybe try answering in Klingon?

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                                • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

                                  My brother-in-law's laptop stopped working. It's under warranty. So he called #Dell.

                                  "Hi! I'm your A.I. assistant. Before I can help you, you have to read me a tiny number from the back of your laptop."

                                  He can't read it, he's blind.

                                  I read it.

                                  The "A.I" has one job. It is very bad at it.

                                  I read it out 20 times before the machine got it right.

                                  In the middle of this debacle, I asked the "A.I." to put me through to a person.

                                  "I can't do that until you read me the number."

                                  #Enshittification

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                                  #22

                                  @davidtheeviloverlord

                                  The thing is doing what it is intended to do. Stop people from getting through to customer service. For everyone who wades through the infuriating process to actually get someone, three people give up in frustration. They reduce customer support costs by 75%. Simple.

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