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if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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  • athena_rising@beige.partyA athena_rising@beige.party

    @eniko As a former middle school/high school teacher, I cannot scream "THIS!" loud enough. People spending all this money to campaign against "screen time" will preach parents should get their kids involved in after-school activities, but schools' groups do not offer enough roles for all kids to participate, and not all families can pay the fees parents are still expected to contribute or for football leagues, swim teams, dance classes outside of school. Maybe spend all that anti-screen campaign money on providing free activities and third spaces for all children instead? Sorry for the small book here, but I literally had kids telling me that they went to hang out in a parking garage (car park) because there was nowhere else they could go on their lunch. 😡

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    #49

    @athena_rising

    Also, parents don't have time! Parents have to work 40 hours a day to keep a roof over their heads!

    If kids can't do things by themselves, they can't do things at all. The only thing they're legally allowed to do right now is stare at their phones…and now the government is taking that away, too.

    Society is sick in the head. I am terrified of where this is going.

    @eniko

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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      #50

      @eniko

      Adults getting off their own devices and going outside and interacting with other people, finding interesting/creative/sociable hobbies might also help encourage youngsters to get off their devices.

      So many adults are addicted too

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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        #51

        @eniko These are two different issues. “Third spaces” have nothing inherently to do with laws restricting minors’ access to online information. And computers aren’t the 1990s TV: they can be places for learning, creating, researching, programming and socializing. “Go outside” isn’t a policy argument.

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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          #52

          @eniko also the solution to toxic systems can't be to "keep kids away from them until they are of age", it needs to be improving the systems to not be f*cking toxic for anyone 😬

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          • helpstertee@social.helpsterte.euH helpstertee@social.helpsterte.eu

            @pizzadoesntexist@mastodon.social
            US: no clue, maybe
            EU: we still have courts left that do work for us

            If they go through with it anyways, there are enough people who will call out their bullshit and we need to amplify that into offline spaces. Happened in the past, will happen again.

            That's why she still has that nickname
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugangserschwerungsgesetz

            From the start, the project was the subject of intense political debate, in which the family minister gained the iconic nickname Zensursula – a portmanteau of the German word Zensur for “censorship” and her first name Ursula.
            Yah, well, we'll see...

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            #53

            @helpsterTee @eniko perhaps you're right. time will tell. from where i sit, it doesn't look like that. thankfully i have a twisted sense of humor so i can amuse myself with the irony of it all.

            for years we've been so worried about fascism, communism, dictatorships ... turns out democracy was the perfect tool to enslave us all. in hindsight it makes sense - you can use the stick to enslave people, but you can't keep them there long. use a carrot instead and the picture changes dramatically.

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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              #54

              @eniko One school got tech-bound students to go outside in one lesson onto the grass. To play.

              Except they had no idea how to play.

              After a few days they started rushing outside to play.

              We need the culture to make the real world not tech focal.

              Stigmatising tech use in public by govt 'zombie' videos would have a massive effect to help steer that path.

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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                #55

                @eniko you go outside and sit in the dirt and wallow like we did when we were kids
                And you'll thank me for it too

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                  #56

                  @matty @eniko people make friends today as well despite social media, of course.

                  but i don't think the problem with social is just about making friends (or not). i think it's more about growing up, being exposed to life, getting a bruise or two (physically and emotionally), slowing down, learning restraint and probably a bunch of other things.

                  i do agree with you that nothing would be perfect at this point.

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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                    #57

                    @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place
                    Restore 3rd spaces for everyone, especially outdoor spaces and activities.

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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                      #58

                      @eniko With the climate the way it is, my area has just The two seasons now - hot or cold.

                      The hot is routinely "extreme heat warning".
                      The cold is routinely "warming centers on the news".

                      We don't get lots of snow. It's just cold and miserable.

                      I want to go outside more than I do, double for the kids, but it's just always awful now.

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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                        #59

                        @eniko

                        What are 1st and 2nd places - home and school?

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                        • greywolfauthor@mas.toG greywolfauthor@mas.to

                          @eniko

                          What are 1st and 2nd places - home and school?

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                          #60

                          @greywolfauthor yes, or home and work for adults

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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                            #61

                            @eniko both things are important. There shouldn't be a "instead" there, imo.

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