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  3. I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

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  • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

    I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

    That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

    If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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    @QasimRashid

    Near yours in my feed...

    https://sfba.social/@vij/117232815096695502

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    • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

      I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

      That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

      If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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      #8

      @QasimRashid ⬆️

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      • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

        I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

        That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

        If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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        #9

        @QasimRashid If you are more concerned with bashing dems than punching nazis you aren't helping.

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        • phaedral@beige.partyP phaedral@beige.party

          @QasimRashid If you are more concerned with bashing dems than punching nazis you aren't helping.

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          #10

          @phaedral @QasimRashid

          i am regularly spouting the very same sentiment

          however we see alternatives now: AOC, Mamdani, El-Sayed, etc

          so what we do is vote to get 50 more Mamdanis

          people who don't vote out of frustration with centrist democrats are idiots

          but we have to articulate a valid response to this dead weak centrism in the democratic party

          again:

          not voting is for idiots and is acceptance of fascism

          not replacing (which we do by voting) centrist dems... is the same, in the long run

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @phaedral @QasimRashid

            i am regularly spouting the very same sentiment

            however we see alternatives now: AOC, Mamdani, El-Sayed, etc

            so what we do is vote to get 50 more Mamdanis

            people who don't vote out of frustration with centrist democrats are idiots

            but we have to articulate a valid response to this dead weak centrism in the democratic party

            again:

            not voting is for idiots and is acceptance of fascism

            not replacing (which we do by voting) centrist dems... is the same, in the long run

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            #11

            @benroyce @QasimRashid Y'all just make me a little nervous 'cause I remember Susan Sarandon saying if she can't have a Bernie win she was for Trump "because it would bring the revolution." That sort of irresponsible nonsense is dangerous. Either one is helping defeat the nazis or one is aiding them by distracting from the vital task. Spending energy today shitting on any dem is a net win for the nazis.

            As you well know.

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            • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

              I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

              That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

              If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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              #12

              @QasimRashid

              We desperately need new Democratic Party leadership when we win the House and Senate.

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              • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

                That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

                If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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                #13

                @QasimRashid

                Voters need to understand it more so than leadership. Voters need to understand that there are some progressive wins this cycle so far, but "voting blue no matter who" isn't enough any more. A bunxh of Newsoms or Buttigiegs aren't going to save our country.

                If we want to avoid returning to normal it means continuing to push even if there is a blue wave. It means rooting out every corporate democrat and replacing them with an actual leftist.

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                • phaedral@beige.partyP phaedral@beige.party

                  @benroyce @QasimRashid Y'all just make me a little nervous 'cause I remember Susan Sarandon saying if she can't have a Bernie win she was for Trump "because it would bring the revolution." That sort of irresponsible nonsense is dangerous. Either one is helping defeat the nazis or one is aiding them by distracting from the vital task. Spending energy today shitting on any dem is a net win for the nazis.

                  As you well know.

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                  #14

                  @phaedral @QasimRashid

                  Susan Sarandon is an idiot

                  She means well but we are all familiar with people who mean well but by their (in)action they only make things worse

                  Standing on perfection and not participating, allowing far worse to dominate, is for ineffectual losers who value their holy self-regard over obvious real world peril

                  It's pure entitlement and privilege, because the bad effects won't touch them, so they play their smug games

                  We need to vote. To replace centrist democrat shit

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @phaedral @QasimRashid

                    Susan Sarandon is an idiot

                    She means well but we are all familiar with people who mean well but by their (in)action they only make things worse

                    Standing on perfection and not participating, allowing far worse to dominate, is for ineffectual losers who value their holy self-regard over obvious real world peril

                    It's pure entitlement and privilege, because the bad effects won't touch them, so they play their smug games

                    We need to vote. To replace centrist democrat shit

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                    #15

                    @benroyce @QasimRashid ...to kick the fucking gop to the curb. When you've accomplished that get back to me about "centrists." But first, clobber the nazis, eh?

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                    • phaedral@beige.partyP phaedral@beige.party

                      @benroyce @QasimRashid ...to kick the fucking gop to the curb. When you've accomplished that get back to me about "centrists." But first, clobber the nazis, eh?

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                      #16

                      @phaedral @QasimRashid

                      zero argument

                      simple tactics: hold the line so we can fight another day

                      against that we have idiots who think a vote is a devotional love letter of eternal purity. which is fucking immature and stupid. but that's how they are, so they don't vote, so we don't hold the line, so now our struggle is harder

                      it's just fucking tactics!

                      the deeper issue:

                      we take over the democrats with real leftists in the primaries

                      two different struggles

                      complementary, not contradictory

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                      • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                        @QasimRashid

                        Voters need to understand it more so than leadership. Voters need to understand that there are some progressive wins this cycle so far, but "voting blue no matter who" isn't enough any more. A bunxh of Newsoms or Buttigiegs aren't going to save our country.

                        If we want to avoid returning to normal it means continuing to push even if there is a blue wave. It means rooting out every corporate democrat and replacing them with an actual leftist.

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                        #17

                        @contrasocial @QasimRashid

                        👏 👏 👏

                        well said

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                        • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                          I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

                          That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

                          If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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                          #18

                          @QasimRashid ☝️This!!!

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                          • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                            I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

                            That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

                            If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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                            #19

                            @QasimRashid

                            "Normal" should have been public flagellation of the January 6th terrorists and throwing in jail the adjudicated rapist, traitor and fraudster, agent Krasnov.

                            Followed by the voting out all the "Democrats" who voted for confimation of the extremists High court kangaroo court judges and repugnican departmental officials.

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                            • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                              I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

                              That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

                              If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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                              #20

                              @QasimRashid

                              Oligarchs own America

                              David Sacks
                              https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/david-sacks-trump-ai-executive-order-6019242d

                              Wars of aggression & regime change that profits the GOP & its oligarchs, foreign & domestic
                              Paul Singer, Ron Lauder, Betancourt, Citrone, & Addison
                              https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/venezuelan-billionaire-us-investigated-money-laundering-now-has-pentagon-oil-2026-09-05/

                              https://www.commondreams.org/news/venezuela-oil-sale-trump-donor

                              https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/world/europe/trump-lauder-ukraine-lithium.html

                              https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/9/1/who-is-alejandro-betancourt-ex-chavez-ally-now-trumps-venezuela-oil-man

                              https://theconversation.com/before-venezuelas-oil-there-were-guatemalas-bananas-272973

                              https://inkstickmedia.com/the-same-old-pattern-that-led-up-to-trumps-iran-war/

                              https://www.thecollector.com/the-banana-wars-how-the-us-plundered-central-america/

                              https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/donald-trump-republican-party/trump-history/

                              https://www.commondreams.org/news/paul-singer-venezuela

                              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/15/ronald-lauder-billionaire-donor-donald-trump-ukraine-greenland

                              https://theconversation.com/the-trump-revolution-where-it-came-from-and-where-its-going-246271

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                              • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                                I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

                                That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

                                If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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                                #21

                                @QasimRashid I kinda just accepted that we're on an unstoppable downward slope.
                                Don't get me wrong it's not gonna stop me personally from pushing for better as I think even the effort is valuable in itself.

                                It's not a matter of whether you feel discouraged or not, if you stop pushing for better because you think it won't happen things will truly never change.
                                That's how you get a majority of US citizens voting for nothing.

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                                • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                                  I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

                                  That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

                                  If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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                                  #22

                                  @QasimRashid

                                  Even this is just a start. Billionaires and gigantic corporations have to pay for the role they played making America this way. It was their deliberate plan to do this and they’ve spent hundreds of millions of dollars every year for a half century. And now we have a second contingent with even more money from Silicon Valley, who are even more genocidal than oil money.

                                  Their wealth and their corporate size that makes them possible must be completely dismantled.

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                                  • phaedral@beige.partyP phaedral@beige.party

                                    @benroyce @QasimRashid ...to kick the fucking gop to the curb. When you've accomplished that get back to me about "centrists." But first, clobber the nazis, eh?

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                                    @phaedral @benroyce @QasimRashid Problem is the Dems in question are working with Donald and Republicans more than what the base wants them to do hence vichycrats. Johnson and Jeffries had basically the same bosses in the 2024 campaign cycle. Check out their opensecrets profiles "Top Organization and Industry Donors." And don't try to say I'm not dedicated enough I vote Democratic party every election and I also volunteer and donate.
                                    https://www.opensecrets.org/profiles/mike-johnson/us_congress/summary?mpid=1055439&cycle=2024&display=candidate
                                    https://www.opensecrets.org/profiles/hakeem-jeffries/us_congress/summary?mpid=1050304&cycle=2024&display=candidate

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                                    • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                                      I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

                                      That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

                                      If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

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                                      @QasimRashid Horrifying thing is, it’s not that they don’t understand. They’re willing to do it again, ideologically & b/c they refuse to relinquish $100Maire/billionaire support. In fact they’ll blame voters again & double down… even if it means falling to fascism permanently & the literal end of the world.

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                                      • andrew773@mastodon.onlineA andrew773@mastodon.online

                                        @phaedral @benroyce @QasimRashid Problem is the Dems in question are working with Donald and Republicans more than what the base wants them to do hence vichycrats. Johnson and Jeffries had basically the same bosses in the 2024 campaign cycle. Check out their opensecrets profiles "Top Organization and Industry Donors." And don't try to say I'm not dedicated enough I vote Democratic party every election and I also volunteer and donate.
                                        https://www.opensecrets.org/profiles/mike-johnson/us_congress/summary?mpid=1055439&cycle=2024&display=candidate
                                        https://www.opensecrets.org/profiles/hakeem-jeffries/us_congress/summary?mpid=1050304&cycle=2024&display=candidate

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                                        @andrew773 @phaedral @QasimRashid

                                        none of this is news to anyone

                                        centrist dems fucking suck

                                        the point is to use our antipathy to show up in the primaries and replace them. primary turn out is so poor. but that's where we get 50 mamdanis across the usa

                                        so where are these people sick of the schumers and the jeffries in the primaries?

                                        many decide to just not vote at all

                                        which only serves to hand MAGA fascism wins

                                        unfathomably stupid and self-defeating

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                                          @QasimRashid Horrifying thing is, it’s not that they don’t understand. They’re willing to do it again, ideologically & b/c they refuse to relinquish $100Maire/billionaire support. In fact they’ll blame voters again & double down… even if it means falling to fascism permanently & the literal end of the world.

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                                          #26

                                          @QasimRashid Election-wise ofc we have to vote for them in the general b/c of the spoiler effect. That battle is won or lost in the primary.. & due to the structure of the American constitution, dominance of capitalism, etc. But ofc it takes acting politically beyond that

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