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  3. New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

    quantillion@mstdn.ioQ This user is from outside of this forum
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    quantillion@mstdn.io
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #34

    @davidrevoy
    I read yesterday that some scientists/researchers want to sue #OpenAI for using #data from their collective work to feed their #AI machine to crack a long-known conundrum.

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      @davidrevoy Glad you are doing something, a little uncertain what the license is exactly. But also, I kind of suspect, all of this stuff is a violation of even CC BY if these licenses were actually enforced and the other FOSS orgs who might have influenced things hadn't dropped the ball; there's simply no way to preserve the "attribution soup" of these works...

      ryunoki@layer8.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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      ryunoki@layer8.space
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #35

      @cwebber @davidrevoy

      Meanwhile at Creative Commons:
      https://github.com/creativecommons/cc-signals/discussions

      These used to be issues. Also the protest fell on deaf ears.

      I'm sorry but CC won't be on your side here 😿

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      • ryunoki@layer8.spaceR ryunoki@layer8.space

        @cwebber @davidrevoy

        Meanwhile at Creative Commons:
        https://github.com/creativecommons/cc-signals/discussions

        These used to be issues. Also the protest fell on deaf ears.

        I'm sorry but CC won't be on your side here 😿

        cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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        cwebber@social.coop
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #36

        @RyunoKi @davidrevoy CC the institution, maybe not. But the legalcode still requires attribution.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

          yuki2501@masto.hackers.townY This user is from outside of this forum
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          yuki2501@masto.hackers.town
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #37

          @davidrevoy Honestly, we need a CC-NOAI license.

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

            annabee92@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            annabee92@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #38

            @davidrevoy I feel your pain. The original sketch is so wonderful. I love how you drew the cat. I feel really uncomfortable with the way AI generates pictures. I like human-y things.

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            • ophis@brain.worm.pinkO ophis@brain.worm.pink
              @efi @davidrevoy (and the three knees)
              efi@chitter.xyzE This user is from outside of this forum
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              efi@chitter.xyz
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #39

              @ophis @davidrevoy or she's trans now

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                @RyunoKi @davidrevoy CC the institution, maybe not. But the legalcode still requires attribution.

                ryunoki@layer8.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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                ryunoki@layer8.space
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #40

                @cwebber @davidrevoy True.

                But unless it produces art verbatim (whatever that means?) it's going to be tough to win in court, I guess.

                I mean, you have large newspapers in US taking OpenAI to court. Just to have DOJ side with the latter.

                Expressing the wish to not be vacuumed up is better than nothing.

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                  kelson@notes.kvibber.com
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #41

                  @davidrevoy I suppose I shoudn't be surprised that someone sent you AI-generated episodes for the Avian Intelligence series, but damn...they really missed the point, didn't they?

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                  • efi@chitter.xyzE efi@chitter.xyz

                    @ophis @davidrevoy or she's trans now

                    ophis@brain.worm.pinkO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    ophis@brain.worm.pink
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #42
                    @efi @davidrevoy or he is (given what hrt does i'm going to assume this is one hell of a phalloplasty)
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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                      voxographe@social.nah.reV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      voxographe@social.nah.re
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #43

                      @davidrevoy Your situation seems terrifying. I can't imagine the feeling of receiving such things like as it was 'normal'.

                      Seeing artists suffering from this makes me boil in anger. Hope your adjustements will have at least minimum effects. Sending support your way for dealing wih all this bs.

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                        jordan@mastodon.subj.amJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        jordan@mastodon.subj.am
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #44

                        @davidrevoy
                        As someone who's trying to build a new music platform centered around CC licenses and local communities, I thank you for writing the article. I 100% concur.

                        My research shows that unfortunately, it's difficult for any license at all to restrict AI training on content, because that's a copyright issue, not a licensing one. I'm hoping that this will change. I want to protect local and independent musicians from AI theft, but I want them to share w/CC and be supported, too. It's hard.

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                          voxel@infosec.spaceV This user is from outside of this forum
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                          voxel@infosec.space
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #45

                          @davidrevoy this will maybe will you: https://github.com/ai-robots-txt/ai.robots.txt

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                            eryops@dice.campE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            eryops@dice.camp
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #46

                            @davidrevoy Are you saying that replacing a broken plate with a loaf of bread(?) isn't enough to make the AI slop original?

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                              skaphle@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              skaphle@social.tchncs.de
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #47

                              @davidrevoy Have you looked into using Nightshade or Glaze or something in that direction to poison AI derivation attempts?

                              https://nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/whatis.html

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                              • n1xnx@tilde.zoneN n1xnx@tilde.zone

                                @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy
                                Since I'm not actually deranged (externally verified), the very notion of feeding someone else's work into an Ai to "improve" or "expand" it brings on a powerful retch reflex.

                                Seems about as acceptable as raping a sheep on the town square at midday.

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                                pirigoto@mastodonapp.uk
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                                #48

                                @n1xnx @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy if you live in the UK it's fine if you do that with pigs, so long you are part of the political class

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                                  cy@fedicy.us.toC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  cy@fedicy.us.to
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #49
                                  crying → singing like Gloria Estaban
                                  ket → Catbus-bus from the popular hit movie Miyazaki's My Neighbor Totoro
                                  absolutely fascinating hat crown → buckle
                                  gee what's the problem everything looks hunky dory to me
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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                                    ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #50

                                    @davidrevoy

                                    You know the differences between the two are very subtly different emotionally.

                                    The alteration of the context..

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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                                      deusfigendi@troet.cafeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      deusfigendi@troet.cafe
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #51

                                      @davidrevoy

                                      I like your attempt and your point very much. You dislike and prohibit AI without demonizing it or being unrealistic fanatic nor extreme.

                                      I am not sure if it is possible to limit the cc-licenses in such a way, but of course one can always write an own license.

                                      And if creative commons does not come along with a "no AI" variant, maybe "Art libre" does or GFDL (well unlikely, but you get the point, there are other free licenses)

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                        marvins@mastodon.de
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #52

                                        @davidrevoy

                                        Interior monologue of the AI:

                                        Ah, I see. A girl! It should be drawn in a beautiful way. Here's some fantastic volume for her magical hair 🪄

                                        What's that? It cries? No excuse for an ugly chin! Also, it doesn't really cry, does it? Can I get a little idea of a smile? Perfect.

                                        And what's that on the top of her head? A very strange hat, indeed. The artist can't even draw wrinkly wizard hats! Here ist the most perfect wrinkly wizard hat imaginable for this cute littly girl.

                                        Ok, I don't exactly know, what's that down there – maybe a ball of some kind? Yeah, it's a child, why not! And really a checker board pattern fits this whole aesthetic far better than whatever that is in the base sketch.

                                        All in all, I made it perfect. As everything should be. 😁

                                        Why do I waste my time anthropomorphising it?

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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                          mirek@rodina-sucha.cz
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #53

                                          @davidrevoy CreativeCommons statement on the opt-out of "text and data mining" (TDM) for the training purposes https://creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/CC-Statement-on-the-TDM-Exception-Art-4-DSM-Final.pdf and here is the implementaion of the "technical means" they refers to: https://www.w3.org/community/reports/tdmrep/CG-FINAL-tdmrep-20240510/

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