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  3. New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    @davidrevoy Glad you are doing something, a little uncertain what the license is exactly. But also, I kind of suspect, all of this stuff is a violation of even CC BY if these licenses were actually enforced and the other FOSS orgs who might have influenced things hadn't dropped the ball; there's simply no way to preserve the "attribution soup" of these works...

    ryunoki@layer8.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #35

    @cwebber @davidrevoy

    Meanwhile at Creative Commons:
    https://github.com/creativecommons/cc-signals/discussions

    These used to be issues. Also the protest fell on deaf ears.

    I'm sorry but CC won't be on your side here 😿

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    • ryunoki@layer8.spaceR ryunoki@layer8.space

      @cwebber @davidrevoy

      Meanwhile at Creative Commons:
      https://github.com/creativecommons/cc-signals/discussions

      These used to be issues. Also the protest fell on deaf ears.

      I'm sorry but CC won't be on your side here 😿

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      #36

      @RyunoKi @davidrevoy CC the institution, maybe not. But the legalcode still requires attribution.

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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        #37

        @davidrevoy Honestly, we need a CC-NOAI license.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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          #38

          @davidrevoy I feel your pain. The original sketch is so wonderful. I love how you drew the cat. I feel really uncomfortable with the way AI generates pictures. I like human-y things.

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          • ophis@brain.worm.pinkO ophis@brain.worm.pink
            @efi @davidrevoy (and the three knees)
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            #39

            @ophis @davidrevoy or she's trans now

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              @RyunoKi @davidrevoy CC the institution, maybe not. But the legalcode still requires attribution.

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              #40

              @cwebber @davidrevoy True.

              But unless it produces art verbatim (whatever that means?) it's going to be tough to win in court, I guess.

              I mean, you have large newspapers in US taking OpenAI to court. Just to have DOJ side with the latter.

              Expressing the wish to not be vacuumed up is better than nothing.

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                #41

                @davidrevoy I suppose I shoudn't be surprised that someone sent you AI-generated episodes for the Avian Intelligence series, but damn...they really missed the point, didn't they?

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                • efi@chitter.xyzE efi@chitter.xyz

                  @ophis @davidrevoy or she's trans now

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #42
                  @efi @davidrevoy or he is (given what hrt does i'm going to assume this is one hell of a phalloplasty)
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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                    #43

                    @davidrevoy Your situation seems terrifying. I can't imagine the feeling of receiving such things like as it was 'normal'.

                    Seeing artists suffering from this makes me boil in anger. Hope your adjustements will have at least minimum effects. Sending support your way for dealing wih all this bs.

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                      #44

                      @davidrevoy
                      As someone who's trying to build a new music platform centered around CC licenses and local communities, I thank you for writing the article. I 100% concur.

                      My research shows that unfortunately, it's difficult for any license at all to restrict AI training on content, because that's a copyright issue, not a licensing one. I'm hoping that this will change. I want to protect local and independent musicians from AI theft, but I want them to share w/CC and be supported, too. It's hard.

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                        #45

                        @davidrevoy this will maybe will you: https://github.com/ai-robots-txt/ai.robots.txt

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                          #46

                          @davidrevoy Are you saying that replacing a broken plate with a loaf of bread(?) isn't enough to make the AI slop original?

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                            #47

                            @davidrevoy Have you looked into using Nightshade or Glaze or something in that direction to poison AI derivation attempts?

                            https://nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/whatis.html

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                            • n1xnx@tilde.zoneN n1xnx@tilde.zone

                              @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy
                              Since I'm not actually deranged (externally verified), the very notion of feeding someone else's work into an Ai to "improve" or "expand" it brings on a powerful retch reflex.

                              Seems about as acceptable as raping a sheep on the town square at midday.

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                              pirigoto@mastodonapp.uk
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                              #48

                              @n1xnx @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy if you live in the UK it's fine if you do that with pigs, so long you are part of the political class

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                cy@fedicy.us.to
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                                #49
                                crying → singing like Gloria Estaban
                                ket → Catbus-bus from the popular hit movie Miyazaki's My Neighbor Totoro
                                absolutely fascinating hat crown → buckle
                                gee what's the problem everything looks hunky dory to me
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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                  #50

                                  @davidrevoy

                                  You know the differences between the two are very subtly different emotionally.

                                  The alteration of the context..

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                    #51

                                    @davidrevoy

                                    I like your attempt and your point very much. You dislike and prohibit AI without demonizing it or being unrealistic fanatic nor extreme.

                                    I am not sure if it is possible to limit the cc-licenses in such a way, but of course one can always write an own license.

                                    And if creative commons does not come along with a "no AI" variant, maybe "Art libre" does or GFDL (well unlikely, but you get the point, there are other free licenses)

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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                      marvins@mastodon.de
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                                      #52

                                      @davidrevoy

                                      Interior monologue of the AI:

                                      Ah, I see. A girl! It should be drawn in a beautiful way. Here's some fantastic volume for her magical hair 🪄

                                      What's that? It cries? No excuse for an ugly chin! Also, it doesn't really cry, does it? Can I get a little idea of a smile? Perfect.

                                      And what's that on the top of her head? A very strange hat, indeed. The artist can't even draw wrinkly wizard hats! Here ist the most perfect wrinkly wizard hat imaginable for this cute littly girl.

                                      Ok, I don't exactly know, what's that down there – maybe a ball of some kind? Yeah, it's a child, why not! And really a checker board pattern fits this whole aesthetic far better than whatever that is in the base sketch.

                                      All in all, I made it perfect. As everything should be. 😁

                                      Why do I waste my time anthropomorphising it?

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                        #53

                                        @davidrevoy CreativeCommons statement on the opt-out of "text and data mining" (TDM) for the training purposes https://creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/CC-Statement-on-the-TDM-Exception-Art-4-DSM-Final.pdf and here is the implementaion of the "technical means" they refers to: https://www.w3.org/community/reports/tdmrep/CG-FINAL-tdmrep-20240510/

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                                        • poleguy@mastodon.socialP poleguy@mastodon.social

                                          @dajb @cwebber @davidrevoy I'd think it would be easier to start with CC BY-ND and then add an exception to allow for derivatives if they were not AI.

                                          However, I am not a lawyer. Also: possession is nine-tenths of the law, and the AI companies have already trained on the data.

                                          Laws, contracts and licenses are only useful if all parties actually agree to the terms. The written text of the licenses is really only to avoid confusion about the agreement. But the AI companies don't show good faith.

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                                          #54

                                          @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy Well, also, although you can relicense, anything you've originally released just under CC BY is fair game.

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