New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics
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@davidrevoy Have you looked into using Nightshade or Glaze or something in that direction to poison AI derivation attempts?
@skaphle Yes, and I'll do the short version: it is a AI bro scam, boosted by a large (and successful) marketing effort. It was defeated on day 1, and now remain with a user base like a cult, especially appreciated from non technical user who are ready to believe it.
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@davidrevoy oh my good lord if someone sent me an AI derivation of my music I will turn into a werecat and visit their house at night
@robinsyl I honestly felt mad about it the first times, before it became regular.
I sort of got used to it. During a recent holiday with my wife, she saw how my notifications were full of that, and it kept incoming; she is the one who told me it wasn't normal and I had to show that in a article. -
New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics@davidrevoy Oof, I kind of feel bad for that user, but they clearly didn't read the room! I'm not sure how anyone can read your Cepper&Parrot stories and think you would be pleased by an AI generation of a Cepper&Parrot story. 🫣
I'm glad that you're openly stating your stance, here. I see some folks implying that enforcement will be too hard, but I think that's beside the point. Enforcement starts by drawing a line in the sand, and stating your boundaries clearly.
I'm with you! o7
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New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics@davidrevoy
Il serait peut-être temps de créer une nouvelle licence type CC ou Art libre contre l'utilisation et modification par IA.De même pour les licences logicielles d'ailleurs
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Interior monologue of the AI:
Ah, I see. A girl! It should be drawn in a beautiful way. Here's some fantastic volume for her magical hair 🪄
What's that? It cries? No excuse for an ugly chin! Also, it doesn't really cry, does it? Can I get a little idea of a smile? Perfect.
And what's that on the top of her head? A very strange hat, indeed. The artist can't even draw wrinkly wizard hats! Here ist the most perfect wrinkly wizard hat imaginable for this cute littly girl.
Ok, I don't exactly know, what's that down there – maybe a ball of some kind? Yeah, it's a child, why not! And really a checker board pattern fits this whole aesthetic far better than whatever that is in the base sketch.
All in all, I made it perfect. As everything should be.
Why do I waste my time anthropomorphising it?
@MarvinS HEH! I know this is done for larfs, but even that is too much reasoning for an LLM. They don't really comprehend what they're looking at or what they're outputting; it's all basically a numbers game.
After looking at a bazillion pictures, they figure out the statistical likelihood that this color pixel will be next to this other color pixel, and so on, until they reach the end. That's why a lot of gen AI looks the same, with all the quirks smoothed out and details genericized.
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@f4grx @davidrevoy why do people even *do* that??
“hey artist i like your work anyway i used a machine to make it better maybe you’ll like it” seems like a very deranged thing to do and yet
@h5e @f4grx @davidrevoy its like rocking up to a woodworking class with a CnC machine
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New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics@davidrevoy
I was looking into this licence the other day. The "Filthy Human Hands" license.Its not that anyone would care or respect licesnes anyway... But maybe this one can be useful somehow.
At the very least I appreciate the sentiment on that one.
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Please have a proper lawyer with copyright/licensing experience look at your idea of how to license your comics in the future.
I am pretty sure you cannot legally use a "CC-something" with an additional "no AI" clause, because then the folks behind the CC licensing might send you a cease and desist letter, since they don't approve of a CC-but-no-AI-use license just yet.
You will probably have to come up with an entire license text of your own, and call it something like the David-Revoy-no-AI-License.
@farbenstau @davidrevoy Probably can't use the CC trademarks, but the text of the licenses themselves is CC0. Which means derivative licenses should be in the clear as long as they're not misrepresented as being from the CC organization.
Of course, "have a lawyer look over any legal document you create" is still good advice.
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@davidrevoy
Il serait peut-être temps de créer une nouvelle licence type CC ou Art libre contre l'utilisation et modification par IA.De même pour les licences logicielles d'ailleurs
@marnic @davidrevoy
Tout à fait d'accord.
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New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics@davidrevoy Why would someone look at a bunch of comics about how much you hate AI and think that sending you AI clones of those comics was a good idea?
My guess: They don't think you'll like it, they think you're owned. See? This AI you hate so much can make comics as well as you can! (It can't.)
The other "offers" of course probably had AI do the work of deciding to e-mail you and everything, so whatever humans were involved probably neither knew nor cared. Spam casts a wide net after all.
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@MarvinS HEH! I know this is done for larfs, but even that is too much reasoning for an LLM. They don't really comprehend what they're looking at or what they're outputting; it's all basically a numbers game.
After looking at a bazillion pictures, they figure out the statistical likelihood that this color pixel will be next to this other color pixel, and so on, until they reach the end. That's why a lot of gen AI looks the same, with all the quirks smoothed out and details genericized.
Now that I think about it. Is it even an LLM, if its output is an image?
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Now that I think about it. Is it even an LLM, if its output is an image?
@MarvinS Mmmm that's a good question!
I guess since it all runs on numbers and tokens, an image is the same data as a text, so I guess it depends on how "language" is defined.Though, there was a time not too long ago when the popular ones couldn't output images at all.
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@davidrevoy Honestly, we need a CC-NOAI license.
@yuki2501 @davidrevoy Honestly?I think that may do more harm than good. The existing CC licenses, and TBH most FOSS licenses, almost certainly (by any reasonable interpretation) already don't allow what @cwebber called "attribution soup" elsewhere in this thread. True, AI bros ignore that, but they ignore all rights reserved too.
I just don't think it's wise to signal that *some* works are no-AI, because it implies that everything not so labeled is fair game, which I'm not willing to concede.
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New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics@davidrevoy I so admire you Sir. Your skill and work at your art and also all the time and talent you donate to our commons and teaching.
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@davidrevoy
Il serait peut-être temps de créer une nouvelle licence type CC ou Art libre contre l'utilisation et modification par IA.De même pour les licences logicielles d'ailleurs
@marnic @davidrevoy il y a https://www.humanscommons.org/ dans cette direction.
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@poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy Well, also, although you can relicense, anything you've originally released just under CC BY is fair game.
@dajb @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy CC-BY does not allow AI training use because such use does not preserve attribution. It's great to be explicit about that, but there is no "the old license allowed it" loophole here.
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@skaphle Yes, and I'll do the short version: it is a AI bro scam, boosted by a large (and successful) marketing effort. It was defeated on day 1, and now remain with a user base like a cult, especially appreciated from non technical user who are ready to believe it.
That's sad, I wish something like that would work, be open-source, would run on Linux, and be done by serious peoples.@davidrevoy Oh no, I didn't know that... Too bad.
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New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics@davidrevoy wow, the ai colored version does actually look disgusting.
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@skaphle Yes, and I'll do the short version: it is a AI bro scam, boosted by a large (and successful) marketing effort. It was defeated on day 1, and now remain with a user base like a cult, especially appreciated from non technical user who are ready to believe it.
That's sad, I wish something like that would work, be open-source, would run on Linux, and be done by serious peoples.@davidrevoy @skaphle I didn't know that they didn't work. Ugh. So much for Cara's artist socmed website being all into Glaze.
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New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics@davidrevoy I think it would be cool if we as artists could come up with a license for our art as a community for this exact thing.
