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  3. New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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  • M marvins@mastodon.de

    @ToonLink

    Now that I think about it. Is it even an LLM, if its output is an image?

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    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #86

    @MarvinS Mmmm that's a good question! 😄 I guess since it all runs on numbers and tokens, an image is the same data as a text, so I guess it depends on how "language" is defined.

    Though, there was a time not too long ago when the popular ones couldn't output images at all.

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    • yuki2501@masto.hackers.townY yuki2501@masto.hackers.town

      @davidrevoy Honestly, we need a CC-NOAI license.

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #87

      @yuki2501 @davidrevoy Honestly?I think that may do more harm than good. The existing CC licenses, and TBH most FOSS licenses, almost certainly (by any reasonable interpretation) already don't allow what @cwebber called "attribution soup" elsewhere in this thread. True, AI bros ignore that, but they ignore all rights reserved too.

      I just don't think it's wise to signal that *some* works are no-AI, because it implies that everything not so labeled is fair game, which I'm not willing to concede.

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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        gemlog@friendface.kalum.ca
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #88

        @davidrevoy I so admire you Sir. Your skill and work at your art and also all the time and talent you donate to our commons and teaching.

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        • marnic@framapiaf.orgM marnic@framapiaf.org

          @davidrevoy
          Il serait peut-être temps de créer une nouvelle licence type CC ou Art libre contre l'utilisation et modification par IA.

          De même pour les licences logicielles d'ailleurs 🤔

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          patrick_massot@mathstodon.xyz
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #89

          @marnic @davidrevoy il y a https://www.humanscommons.org/ dans cette direction.

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          • dajb@social.coopD dajb@social.coop

            @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy Well, also, although you can relicense, anything you've originally released just under CC BY is fair game.

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            #90

            @dajb @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy CC-BY does not allow AI training use because such use does not preserve attribution. It's great to be explicit about that, but there is no "the old license allowed it" loophole here.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              @skaphle Yes, and I'll do the short version: it is a AI bro scam, boosted by a large (and successful) marketing effort. It was defeated on day 1, and now remain with a user base like a cult, especially appreciated from non technical user who are ready to believe it.
              That's sad, I wish something like that would work, be open-source, would run on Linux, and be done by serious peoples.

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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #91

              @davidrevoy Oh no, I didn't know that... Too bad.

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #92

                @davidrevoy wow, the ai colored version does actually look disgusting.

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  @skaphle Yes, and I'll do the short version: it is a AI bro scam, boosted by a large (and successful) marketing effort. It was defeated on day 1, and now remain with a user base like a cult, especially appreciated from non technical user who are ready to believe it.
                  That's sad, I wish something like that would work, be open-source, would run on Linux, and be done by serious peoples.

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #93

                  @davidrevoy @skaphle I didn't know that they didn't work. Ugh. So much for Cara's artist socmed website being all into Glaze.

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                    #94

                    @davidrevoy I think it would be cool if we as artists could come up with a license for our art as a community for this exact thing.

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #95

                      @davidrevoy

                      But the A.I. companies disagree, and that is what matters. / sarcasm, mostly.

                      The unfortunate reality is even Disney has been fighting against A.I. usage, but somehow they're always given a pass. The closest they got to "winning" was a settlement once.

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                      • mhunt@socel.netM mhunt@socel.net

                        @davidrevoy laws are too slow updating to the use of A.I. I'm sorry you have to go trough this.

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                        #96

                        @mhunt @davidrevoy

                        Laws already make so many shitty things people do with AI illegal. Enforcement has just decided not to care and let it slide.

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                        • evelynoctavia@c.imE evelynoctavia@c.im

                          @davidrevoy wow, the ai colored version does actually look disgusting.

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                          paculino@tech.lgbt
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                          #97

                          @EvelynOctavia @davidrevoy it's clearly different shapes altogether even. The arms are different lengths and it seems she has three knees??? Tiles are a different pattern, the expressions are different, and the angles are changed.

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                          • discatte@digipres.clubD discatte@digipres.club

                            @davidrevoy I had someone post aigen derivatives of some old 3d artists I was sharing back in the twitter days. I can only imagine the feeling of seeing that of my own works.

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                            #98

                            @discatte @davidrevoy Gross!

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                              suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #99
                              @davidrevoy That is the wrong way to try to solve the problem.

                              By referring to slop machines as "AI", you are supporting corporation's propaganda.

                              Why run proprietary software and SaaSS to check grammar? Your brain can do that and it seems free grammar checking programs already existed.

                              I'm not confident copyright or moral wrongs laws even permits such restrictions anyway (restrictions on use are a terrible idea, even if legally valid and even if at the start it's only restricts immoral activities; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/programs-must-not-limit-freedom-to-run.en.html).

                              A correct way to try to solve the problem, that does not require modifying CC licenses, is to license CC BY-SA 4.0 and enforce the attribution part.

                              >99% of the time someone makes a degenerated copy, they won't have included the attribution and/or added their own proprietary restrictions, thus you can demand that the slop is deleted and permanently terminate the license.
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                              • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                                @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                                2. Tiles are wrong
                                3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                                4. Curve to lower right is gone
                                5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                                6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                                7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                                8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                                doctormo@floss.social
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                                #100

                                @bstacey @f4grx @davidrevoy

                                3. Bread, its a stochastic bread.

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #101

                                  @davidrevoy those generated images are revolting 😣

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                                  • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                                    @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                                    2. Tiles are wrong
                                    3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                                    4. Curve to lower right is gone
                                    5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                                    6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                                    7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                                    8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                                    foxysen@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #102

                                    @bstacey @f4grx @davidrevoy left arm is now severely undergrown compared to right arm

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                                    • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                                      @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                                      2. Tiles are wrong
                                      3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                                      4. Curve to lower right is gone
                                      5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                                      6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                                      7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                                      8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                                      #103

                                      @bstacey
                                      n. left hand's point finger grown "AI bonus branching finger"

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                                      • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                                        @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                                        2. Tiles are wrong
                                        3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                                        4. Curve to lower right is gone
                                        5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                                        6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                                        7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                                        8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                                        bstacey@icosahedron.website
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                                        #104

                                        @f4grx @davidrevoy 9. Hem of shirt has changed in a way that loses character
                                        10. Pendant has changed, thin chain necklace has become a ribbon
                                        11. Third knee?

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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                          sm4llth1ng@mamot.fr
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #105

                                          @davidrevoy ❤

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