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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

    #OpenWashing

    michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #29

    @_elena

    Après cinéaste et photographe, tu pourrais maintenant ajouter journaliste d'enquête.

    Merci pour cet article très fouillé et très recherché.

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    • michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM michelpatrice@jasette.facil.services

      @_elena

      Après cinéaste et photographe, tu pourrais maintenant ajouter journaliste d'enquête.

      Merci pour cet article très fouillé et très recherché.

      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #30

      @MichelPatrice hahaha merci Michel ! 😂

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

        Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

        You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

        #OpenWashing

        feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #31

        @_elena At least for me it's clear... W social is a financial project to grap some founding money. It's not a project with European sovereignty in mind or with sovereignty for Europeans.

        Therefore, it should be avoided.

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

          Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

          You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

          #OpenWashing

          johan@social.codefor.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #32

          @_elena cc @FediVariety

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

            Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

            You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

            https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

            #OpenWashing

            bjornw@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #33

            @_elena thank you, for doing the work journalism / media should have been doing!

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

              Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

              You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

              https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

              #OpenWashing

              alpacamale@social.cologneA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #34

              @_elena Monet being like: Am I a joke to you?

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                #OpenWashing

                simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #35

                @_elena

                I've also seen references to a BlackSky SM platform which seems to be another Bluesky clone? 🙂🤷‍♂️

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Regarding my W Social exposé: it was months in the making and I could have written a LOT more, showing additional examples of technical blunders, but I kept it "brief" at 3500 words 😅

                  I ran out of characters to tag all the awesome people I mentioned in the piece: @doktorzjivago (thanks for the top notch meme), @tom @mapache and @Em0nM4stodon

                  And special thanks to people who volunteered to proof-read a draft and gave me fantastic feedback: @bitzero and @DataKnightmare

                  It takes a village ❤️

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                  #36

                  @_elena Thanks! Let's hope the message lands!

                  Journalism has been disappointing. One journalist picking up on it was working for Dutch NOS. On launch she asked "Bluesky fork?" and got shut down with a "we'll share tech details later". ⏰🔔

                  >Eurosky .. carefully planned out,

                  But also dishonest. Eurosky is an offshoot from a failed global grift now trying the Europe angle.

                  On launch I emailed back-and-forth with them multiple times to fix their privacy policy. Even now they make false claims.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                    #OpenWashing

                    lou@social.peakx.comL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #37

                    @_elena thanks for unmasking the effort. looking forward to the complete unmasking of who is behind it.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                      Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                      You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                      https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                      #OpenWashing

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                      hannes99@mastodon.social
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                      #38

                      @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                        Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                        You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                        #OpenWashing

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                        #39

                        @_elena Same shit as US big tech, wearing an EU mask…

                        Which is what I think a lot of this sovereignty hype will boil down to:

                        A lot of US companies will establish subsidies, that will ”Eurowash” their products. In the background the data access for them stays, and nothing changes. We use the same products under a different name and somebody gets a cut.

                        Neoliberal corporatism is an ideology, and this is the result. So very few people can even see it.

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                        • H hannes99@mastodon.social

                          @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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                          hannes99@mastodon.social
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                          #40

                          @_elena also see https://infosec.exchange/@adfichter/116533797319369553

                          #Wedium #AnotherShadyW #TikTokAlternative

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                          • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

                            @_elena

                            I've also seen references to a BlackSky SM platform which seems to be another Bluesky clone? 🙂🤷‍♂️

                            mellifluousbox@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #41

                            @simonzerafa I think calling Blacksky a clone is too limiting as they do a ton of good and original work from what I can tell. @_elena

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                              Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                              You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                              https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                              #OpenWashing

                              witchescauldron@kolektiva.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                              witchescauldron@kolektiva.social
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                              #42

                              @_elena more mess to compost, it's a signal-to-noise issue that makes these people evil... left to themselves they are pointless so not much of a problem.

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                              • H hannes99@mastodon.social

                                @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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                                #43

                                @hannes99

                                @_elena

                                We don't want monetization. That's why we're in the Fediverse. Some people (avoiding name-calling here) want monetization. WSocial is for them.

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                  Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                  You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                  https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                  #OpenWashing

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                                  hannes99@mastodon.social
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                                  #44

                                  @_elena

                                  "Its founders have ties with European politicians"

                                  Apparently also including the German data protection representative Louisa Specht-Riemenschneider 😏

                                  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesbeauftragter_f%C3%BCr_den_Datenschutz_und_die_Informationsfreiheit

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                    #OpenWashing

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                                    #45

                                    @_elena Its goal is to promote you carrying an agent around to spy on you.

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                                    • H hannes99@mastodon.social

                                      @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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                                      #46

                                      @hannes99 I'd venture to say that Wedium is FAR shadier because it's not based on an open protocol...

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                                        #47

                                        @m4lvin thank you! ❤️

                                        that was the main goal: use this piece as reference anytime someone brings up W Social and some myths about it

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                                        • bjornw@mastodon.socialB bjornw@mastodon.social

                                          @_elena thank you, for doing the work journalism / media should have been doing!

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                                          #48

                                          @BjornW thank you Bjorn! It means a lot coming from you ❤️

                                          I'm now thinking I need to translate this into French as well... there is SO MUCH misinformation about W Social here

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