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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

    #OpenWashing

    lou@social.peakx.comL This user is from outside of this forum
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    lou@social.peakx.com
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    #37

    @_elena thanks for unmasking the effort. looking forward to the complete unmasking of who is behind it.

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

      Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

      You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

      https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

      #OpenWashing

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      hannes99@mastodon.social
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      #38

      @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

        Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

        You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

        #OpenWashing

        gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #39

        @_elena Same shit as US big tech, wearing an EU mask…

        Which is what I think a lot of this sovereignty hype will boil down to:

        A lot of US companies will establish subsidies, that will ”Eurowash” their products. In the background the data access for them stays, and nothing changes. We use the same products under a different name and somebody gets a cut.

        Neoliberal corporatism is an ideology, and this is the result. So very few people can even see it.

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        • H hannes99@mastodon.social

          @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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          hannes99@mastodon.social
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          #40

          @_elena also see https://infosec.exchange/@adfichter/116533797319369553

          #Wedium #AnotherShadyW #TikTokAlternative

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          • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

            @_elena

            I've also seen references to a BlackSky SM platform which seems to be another Bluesky clone? 🙂🤷‍♂️

            mellifluousbox@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            mellifluousbox@mastodon.social
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            #41

            @simonzerafa I think calling Blacksky a clone is too limiting as they do a ton of good and original work from what I can tell. @_elena

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

              Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

              You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

              https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

              #OpenWashing

              witchescauldron@kolektiva.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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              witchescauldron@kolektiva.social
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              #42

              @_elena more mess to compost, it's a signal-to-noise issue that makes these people evil... left to themselves they are pointless so not much of a problem.

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              • H hannes99@mastodon.social

                @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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                #43

                @hannes99

                @_elena

                We don't want monetization. That's why we're in the Fediverse. Some people (avoiding name-calling here) want monetization. WSocial is for them.

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                  Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                  You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                  https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                  #OpenWashing

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                  hannes99@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #44

                  @_elena

                  "Its founders have ties with European politicians"

                  Apparently also including the German data protection representative Louisa Specht-Riemenschneider 😏

                  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesbeauftragter_f%C3%BCr_den_Datenschutz_und_die_Informationsfreiheit

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                    #OpenWashing

                    shwell@mastodon.auS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    shwell@mastodon.au
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                    #45

                    @_elena Its goal is to promote you carrying an agent around to spy on you.

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                    • H hannes99@mastodon.social

                      @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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                      #46

                      @hannes99 I'd venture to say that Wedium is FAR shadier because it's not based on an open protocol...

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        _elena@mastodon.social
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                        #47

                        @m4lvin thank you! ❤️

                        that was the main goal: use this piece as reference anytime someone brings up W Social and some myths about it

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                        • bjornw@mastodon.socialB bjornw@mastodon.social

                          @_elena thank you, for doing the work journalism / media should have been doing!

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                          #48

                          @BjornW thank you Bjorn! It means a lot coming from you ❤️

                          I'm now thinking I need to translate this into French as well... there is SO MUCH misinformation about W Social here

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                          • feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @_elena At least for me it's clear... W social is a financial project to grap some founding money. It's not a project with European sovereignty in mind or with sovereignty for Europeans.

                            Therefore, it should be avoided.

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                            _elena@mastodon.social
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                            #49

                            @feyter I think they are betting on mandatory age verification in Europe... which would give them a leg up over Eurosky

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              @hannes99 I'd venture to say that Wedium is FAR shadier because it's not based on an open protocol...

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                              hannes99@mastodon.social
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                              #50

                              @_elena true. At least Bluesky/AT Proto is a solid (while US BigTech) basis. And apparently in their entire team is only ONE IT person, thus heavy usage of vibe coding, when you have to build an entire new social media platform (and protocol) from scratch with only one person. The rest of the #Wedium team is marketing, finance and fundraising experts.

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                #OpenWashing

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                                gina@fosstodon.org
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                                #51

                                @_elena 🔥🔥🔥

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                                • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                                  @_elena 🔥🔥🔥

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                                  _elena@mastodon.social
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                                  #52

                                  @Gina 🥰😘

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                    #OpenWashing

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                                    jzb@hachyderm.io
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                                    #53

                                    @_elena Doing the Lord's Work (TM) -- awesome.

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                                    • H hannes99@mastodon.social

                                      @_elena true. At least Bluesky/AT Proto is a solid (while US BigTech) basis. And apparently in their entire team is only ONE IT person, thus heavy usage of vibe coding, when you have to build an entire new social media platform (and protocol) from scratch with only one person. The rest of the #Wedium team is marketing, finance and fundraising experts.

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                                      #54

                                      @hannes99 yes and they have 125 million dollars in funding by crypto bros (Blockchain Capital and Bain Crypto Capital). Who can beat that? 🙊

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                        Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                        You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                        #OpenWashing

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                                        #55

                                        @_elena we have one of these too! https://gandersocial.ca

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          @hannes99 yes and they have 125 million dollars in funding by crypto bros (Blockchain Capital and Bain Crypto Capital). Who can beat that? 🙊

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                                          hannes99@mastodon.social
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                                          #56

                                          @_elena 🙈

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