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Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

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  • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

    @twigpi @jwz Absolutely. Few would object to the AI that helps detect bank card fraud, or the AI image analysis that helps diagnostic screening, or the AI protein folding that helps develop treatments for disease.

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    #20

    @twigpi @jwz Of if they do want to object to these things they've left it a few decades too late.

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    • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

      @twigpi @jwz Absolutely. Few would object to the AI that helps detect bank card fraud, or the AI image analysis that helps diagnostic screening, or the AI protein folding that helps develop treatments for disease.

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      #21

      @TimWardCam @twigpi "And also fuck you", he elaborated.

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      • fluffydotorg@sfba.socialF fluffydotorg@sfba.social

        @jwz can I get this on a tshirt (to go with my "please stop putting AI in everything, everybody hates it nobody asked for it" tshirt)

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        #22

        @fluffydotorg You have the PDF, go hog wild.

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        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

          @curltoes "Fuck you" he explained.

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          #23

          @jwz i don't understand what your problem is with it i wasnt hostile towards you and you are just being mean for no reason

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

            I had some cards printed up.

            These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

            Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
            https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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            #24

            @jwz I'm pleased to note that where the cards say "YOU MAKE ME LONG FOR THE SWIFT EMBRACE OF DEATH" that they don't specify WHOSE death.

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            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

              Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

              I had some cards printed up.

              These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

              Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
              https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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              #25

              @jwz
              I don't get it. Is this like a big chunk of your identity or something?

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              • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                @jwz i don't understand what your problem is with it i wasnt hostile towards you and you are just being mean for no reason

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                #26

                @curltoes @jwz I AM TRYING TO EAT BREAKFAST

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                • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                  @jwz yes but local LLMs on your own computer is not as bad. the models were already trained so the worst possible crime you commit is adding a +1 on that hugging face download counter.

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                  #27

                  @curltoes "my slop is good because it's a local model" does not change the fact that all you're doing is generating slop, hth

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                  • atax1a@infosec.exchangeA atax1a@infosec.exchange

                    @curltoes "my slop is good because it's a local model" does not change the fact that all you're doing is generating slop, hth

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                    #28

                    @atax1a depends what you use it for. if someone is okay with using it for personal use like roleplay on their own hardware and no one else sees it, why do you care that someone generated slop on their computer?

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                    • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                      @atax1a depends what you use it for. if someone is okay with using it for personal use like roleplay on their own hardware and no one else sees it, why do you care that someone generated slop on their computer?

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                      #29

                      @curltoes because you're generating slop

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                      • atax1a@infosec.exchangeA atax1a@infosec.exchange

                        @curltoes because you're generating slop

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                        #30

                        @atax1a okay? and if i play a shitty game that was made in 5 minutes by a human that you dont like should you judge that i like it? its low quality slop to you and its good enough to me

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                        • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                          @atax1a okay? and if i play a shitty game that was made in 5 minutes by a human that you dont like should you judge that i like it? its low quality slop to you and its good enough to me

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                          #31

                          @curltoes you're arguing directly for the proliferation of LLM garbage by saying "what if it was human made", i guess this is what local models do to you, qed

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                          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                            Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                            I had some cards printed up.

                            These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                            Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                            https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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                            #32

                            @jwz is it so tedious? Everyone hates it, yes, but humans are herd animals, we need common things to talk about. Weather, ai, russians...

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                            • atax1a@infosec.exchangeA atax1a@infosec.exchange

                              @curltoes you're arguing directly for the proliferation of LLM garbage by saying "what if it was human made", i guess this is what local models do to you, qed

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                              #33

                              @atax1a not exactly, its about individual use of software. you have the right to use software on your own computer. besides, ai can be used to help with coding like creating simple scripts and saving some time

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                              • zabenoid@mastodon.socialZ zabenoid@mastodon.social

                                @jwz is it so tedious? Everyone hates it, yes, but humans are herd animals, we need common things to talk about. Weather, ai, russians...

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                                #34

                                @zabenoid "Fuck you", he explained.

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                                • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                                  @atax1a not exactly, its about individual use of software. you have the right to use software on your own computer. besides, ai can be used to help with coding like creating simple scripts and saving some time

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                                  #35

                                  @curltoes slop! slop! slop!

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                                  • atax1a@infosec.exchangeA atax1a@infosec.exchange

                                    @curltoes slop! slop! slop!

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                                    #36

                                    @atax1a it is but if it's helpful slop, i dont care

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                                    • noisecolor@toot.communityN noisecolor@toot.community

                                      @jwz
                                      I don't get it. Is this like a big chunk of your identity or something?

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                                      #37

                                      @Noisecolor I am a magnet for the most tedious motherfuckers in the bar.

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                                      • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                                        @atax1a it is but if it's helpful slop, i dont care

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                                        #38

                                        @curltoes you're a careless slopist, that isn't news, hope you step on a lego

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                                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                          Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                                          I had some cards printed up.

                                          These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                                          Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                                          https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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                                          #39

                                          @jwz I love it. Now I need to translate it to Spanish

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