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  • jpmens@mastodon.socialJ jpmens@mastodon.social

    "I’m European. The whole continent is assumed to have a Google and a Meta account.

    This is frightening. We are putting all our eggs in the same basket. And our milk, our water, our house, our furniture and our loved ones. In an electrical-auto-closing basket remotely controlled by a foreign entity that openly spies on us and wants to extract as much money as they can. For some reason, it is considered weird not to like the basket."

    https://ploum.net/2026-09-02-i_dont_have_a_smartphone.html

    michal@vltava.cloudM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    @jpmens

    And it goes more far. Not just google or apple accounts.

    It is also Visa and MasterCard dependency. Without America I literary can't survive.

    My salary goes to my bank account (company don't have to give you cash). And then everything what am I buying needs America. I can't withdraw money without Visa or MC. I can't pay without it.

    Heil America!

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    • michal@vltava.cloudM michal@vltava.cloud

      @jpmens

      And it goes more far. Not just google or apple accounts.

      It is also Visa and MasterCard dependency. Without America I literary can't survive.

      My salary goes to my bank account (company don't have to give you cash). And then everything what am I buying needs America. I can't withdraw money without Visa or MC. I can't pay without it.

      Heil America!

      michal@vltava.cloudM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @jpmens
      Someone from EU betrayed us

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      • michal@vltava.cloudM michal@vltava.cloud

        @jpmens

        And it goes more far. Not just google or apple accounts.

        It is also Visa and MasterCard dependency. Without America I literary can't survive.

        My salary goes to my bank account (company don't have to give you cash). And then everything what am I buying needs America. I can't withdraw money without Visa or MC. I can't pay without it.

        Heil America!

        jpmens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @michal you cannot, in .CZ, withdraw money from a bank account in person (cash) or with a bank card?

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        • zool@icosahedron.websiteZ zool@icosahedron.website

          @jpmens lost me at "I'm living Meta-free because my wife is doing the social admin" 🤮

          mabande@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @zool @jpmens At least he acknowledged that it's the only way for him to not use it (seen some less insightful pieces where it was obvious but never stated that things had been offloaded to the spouse), but it would be nice to see one of these where the husband took the proverbial bullet so his wife won't have to be on Meta.

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          • jpmens@mastodon.socialJ jpmens@mastodon.social

            @michal you cannot, in .CZ, withdraw money from a bank account in person (cash) or with a bank card?

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            #10

            @jpmens
            We have just Visa o MC, so authorization is done via american network.

            From bank i can withdraw, but i must pay fee. If i want more than 100000czk i have make even appointment 😕

            Not ideal situation. In Germany they have at least EC card

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            • jurjen_heeck@mastodon.nlJ jurjen_heeck@mastodon.nl

              @hweimer @jpmens This basically means that you are a lot more tech savvy and privacy aware than about 90% of Europeans. We're a small minority.

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              #11

              @jurjen_heeck @hweimer It also means you have the time, mental bandwidth and economical means to push back against the mainstream when you have to, buy the necessary non-Google/Apple devices and so on. To always avoid companies that don't provide options is a privilege not everyone is afforded.

              It's more than just being tech savvy. It takes time, energy, money and some privilege to be able to do it.

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              • michal@vltava.cloudM michal@vltava.cloud

                @jpmens

                And it goes more far. Not just google or apple accounts.

                It is also Visa and MasterCard dependency. Without America I literary can't survive.

                My salary goes to my bank account (company don't have to give you cash). And then everything what am I buying needs America. I can't withdraw money without Visa or MC. I can't pay without it.

                Heil America!

                gina@fosstodon.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @michal @jpmens the good news is that, due to the ICC judges being boycotted by American payment systems (amongst loads of US based services), the EU is now working on alternatives for Visa and MasterCard 🔥

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                • herzleid@wandering.shopH herzleid@wandering.shop

                  @jurjen_heeck @hweimer It also means you have the time, mental bandwidth and economical means to push back against the mainstream when you have to, buy the necessary non-Google/Apple devices and so on. To always avoid companies that don't provide options is a privilege not everyone is afforded.

                  It's more than just being tech savvy. It takes time, energy, money and some privilege to be able to do it.

                  hweimer@fediscience.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @herzleid @jurjen_heeck

                  Absolutely. It's closely related to analog privilege: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4528278

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                  • jpmens@mastodon.socialJ jpmens@mastodon.social

                    "I’m European. The whole continent is assumed to have a Google and a Meta account.

                    This is frightening. We are putting all our eggs in the same basket. And our milk, our water, our house, our furniture and our loved ones. In an electrical-auto-closing basket remotely controlled by a foreign entity that openly spies on us and wants to extract as much money as they can. For some reason, it is considered weird not to like the basket."

                    https://ploum.net/2026-09-02-i_dont_have_a_smartphone.html

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                    #14

                    @jpmens
                    Hi @ploum , in your recent blog you write that "New EU regulations may also push more apps to check for the "Google Play Integrity" to ensure that they are running on a true Google owned Android."

                    Can you give any examples of what you're thinking about?

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                    • jpmens@mastodon.socialJ jpmens@mastodon.social

                      "I’m European. The whole continent is assumed to have a Google and a Meta account.

                      This is frightening. We are putting all our eggs in the same basket. And our milk, our water, our house, our furniture and our loved ones. In an electrical-auto-closing basket remotely controlled by a foreign entity that openly spies on us and wants to extract as much money as they can. For some reason, it is considered weird not to like the basket."

                      https://ploum.net/2026-09-02-i_dont_have_a_smartphone.html

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                      #15

                      @jpmens Graphene OS (https://grapheneos.org/) appears to be the best system to avoid Google and Apple dependencies with a quite secure operating system.

                      France is actively fighting it because (shuffles papers)... "may protect pedophiles".

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