If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
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@jaredwhite I then proceeded to phrase the question in different ways, and since I started digging in, ChatGPT suddenly said that maybe I was referring to January 20, 2025, but then wrote this:
Status: Disputed—there is no universal agreement that it was a Nazi salute, only that it resembled one to some observers
@randahl It didn't resemble one. It was one! 🫠
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
@randahl "yeah, right."
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
@randahl I think it would be sensible to be more accurate in your phrasing: *all* #AI system are inaccurate due to structural reasons. Whether they are *also* inaccurate due to political reasons is an interesting question, but not the only one to consider. Try asking DeepSeek about certain places or events and you’ll find the same result mutatis mutandis
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
@randahl even a blind person couldn't misinterpret that video: the loser sieg heiled with his whole body, like he was having an orgasm whenever he did it -
If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
@randahl Gemini:
"Elon Musk was at the center of a major controversy involving an alleged fascist gesture on **January 20, 2025**, during a rally celebrating Donald Trump’s second inauguration at the Capital One Arena in Washington, D.C.
The incident sparked intense global debate over whether the movement was an intentional "Sieg Heil" or an awkward display of enthusiasm.
### The Incident
While addressing the crowd, Musk performed a specific sequence: he tapped the left side of his chest with his right hand and then extended his arm upward with an open palm. He repeated this gesture twice, leading to immediate and polarizing reactions:1/
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@randahl Gemini:
"Elon Musk was at the center of a major controversy involving an alleged fascist gesture on **January 20, 2025**, during a rally celebrating Donald Trump’s second inauguration at the Capital One Arena in Washington, D.C.
The incident sparked intense global debate over whether the movement was an intentional "Sieg Heil" or an awkward display of enthusiasm.
### The Incident
While addressing the crowd, Musk performed a specific sequence: he tapped the left side of his chest with his right hand and then extended his arm upward with an open palm. He repeated this gesture twice, leading to immediate and polarizing reactions:1/
@randahl * **Critics and Historians:** Many experts, including NYU history professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, identified it as a Nazi or fascist "Roman salute." Critics argued the "from the heart to the sun" motion is a known variation used by far-right and neo-Nazi groups.
* **The Far-Right:** Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups (such as the Blood Tribe and figures on Telegram) celebrated the gesture, interpreting it as a "White Power" signal and a clear nod to their movement.
* **Musk’s Defense:** Musk dismissed the backlash on X (formerly Twitter), calling the accusations "dirty tricks" and claiming the "everyone is Hitler" attack was "sooo tired."2/
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@randahl * **Critics and Historians:** Many experts, including NYU history professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, identified it as a Nazi or fascist "Roman salute." Critics argued the "from the heart to the sun" motion is a known variation used by far-right and neo-Nazi groups.
* **The Far-Right:** Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups (such as the Blood Tribe and figures on Telegram) celebrated the gesture, interpreting it as a "White Power" signal and a clear nod to their movement.
* **Musk’s Defense:** Musk dismissed the backlash on X (formerly Twitter), calling the accusations "dirty tricks" and claiming the "everyone is Hitler" attack was "sooo tired."2/
@randahl * **Supporters:** Supporters and some organizations, like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), initially defended him, suggesting it was an "awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm" rather than a hateful symbol. Others attributed the stiff movement to his self-diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome.
### Consequences
The event had significant diplomatic and legal ripples:
* **Germany:** Because the Nazi salute is a criminal offense in Germany, the gesture led to calls from European politicians to ban Musk from the country and sparked protests at the Tesla Gigafactory near Berlin. -
@randahl * **Supporters:** Supporters and some organizations, like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), initially defended him, suggesting it was an "awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm" rather than a hateful symbol. Others attributed the stiff movement to his self-diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome.
### Consequences
The event had significant diplomatic and legal ripples:
* **Germany:** Because the Nazi salute is a criminal offense in Germany, the gesture led to calls from European politicians to ban Musk from the country and sparked protests at the Tesla Gigafactory near Berlin.@randahl
* **Public Opinion:** A YouGov survey conducted shortly after showed the public was split; roughly **42%** of Americans viewed it as a Nazi or Roman salute, while another **42%** viewed it as a harmless "gesture from the heart."The controversy was further fueled by Musk’s subsequent posts on X, where he made puns using the names of high-ranking Nazi officials (e.g., "His pronouns would've been He/Himmler"), which many viewed as a mocking "double down" on the original incident.
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
@randahl Huh?
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
@randahl The best thing to do here is just not use these AI slop/hallucination machines. I've never used them. I'll never pay for them.
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
@randahl He did it twice, in case any cameras missed the first one. WTF is this robot talking about? We all saw it happen live.
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@1sxteenthDANE @randahl @pluralistic
This is why the "firemen" will be needed to burn all the books. Only the robot memory can be trusted. -
@randahl Mistral AI (Le Chat):
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
@randahl Mistral would beg to differ!
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
Does this verify from other IP geolocation?
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
In Perplexity you can choose which LLM is used and the answers referenced all Wikipedia as the main source.
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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"
Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.
@randahl All the “credible” news sources it says. Would those sources be owned by billionaire sycophants who are all his buddies? Hm-m-m
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