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  3. If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

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  • lauteshirn@social.tchncs.deL lauteshirn@social.tchncs.de

    @randahl * **Critics and Historians:** Many experts, including NYU history professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, identified it as a Nazi or fascist "Roman salute." Critics argued the "from the heart to the sun" motion is a known variation used by far-right and neo-Nazi groups.
    * **The Far-Right:** Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups (such as the Blood Tribe and figures on Telegram) celebrated the gesture, interpreting it as a "White Power" signal and a clear nod to their movement.
    * **Musk’s Defense:** Musk dismissed the backlash on X (formerly Twitter), calling the accusations "dirty tricks" and claiming the "everyone is Hitler" attack was "sooo tired."

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    @randahl * **Supporters:** Supporters and some organizations, like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), initially defended him, suggesting it was an "awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm" rather than a hateful symbol. Others attributed the stiff movement to his self-diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome.

    ### Consequences
    The event had significant diplomatic and legal ripples:
    * **Germany:** Because the Nazi salute is a criminal offense in Germany, the gesture led to calls from European politicians to ban Musk from the country and sparked protests at the Tesla Gigafactory near Berlin.

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    • lauteshirn@social.tchncs.deL lauteshirn@social.tchncs.de

      @randahl * **Supporters:** Supporters and some organizations, like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), initially defended him, suggesting it was an "awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm" rather than a hateful symbol. Others attributed the stiff movement to his self-diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome.

      ### Consequences
      The event had significant diplomatic and legal ripples:
      * **Germany:** Because the Nazi salute is a criminal offense in Germany, the gesture led to calls from European politicians to ban Musk from the country and sparked protests at the Tesla Gigafactory near Berlin.

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      #15

      @randahl
      * **Public Opinion:** A YouGov survey conducted shortly after showed the public was split; roughly **42%** of Americans viewed it as a Nazi or Roman salute, while another **42%** viewed it as a harmless "gesture from the heart."

      The controversy was further fueled by Musk’s subsequent posts on X, where he made puns using the names of high-ranking Nazi officials (e.g., "His pronouns would've been He/Himmler"), which many viewed as a mocking "double down" on the original incident.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

        Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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        #16

        @randahl

        These systems are not reliable .

        To the question ‘what is a nazi ´ , ChatGPT gives this answer

        —- A Nazi originally referred to a member or समर्थer of the Nazi Party

        I don’t even try to understand what a समर्थer is .

        Another hallucination

        #ia

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

          Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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          #17

          @randahl Huh?

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

            Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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            #18

            @randahl The best thing to do here is just not use these AI slop/hallucination machines. I've never used them. I'll never pay for them.

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

              Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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              #19

              @randahl He did it twice, in case any cameras missed the first one. WTF is this robot talking about? We all saw it happen live.

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                #20

                @1sxteenthDANE @randahl @pluralistic
                This is why the "firemen" will be needed to burn all the books. Only the robot memory can be trusted.

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                • troed@masto.sangberg.seT troed@masto.sangberg.se

                  @randahl Mistral AI (Le Chat):

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                  #21

                  @troed @randahl the French call a Nazi a Nazi when they see one

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

                    Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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                    @randahl Mistral would beg to differ! 😂

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

                      Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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                      #23

                      @randahl

                      Does this verify from other IP geolocation?

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

                        Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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                        #24

                        @randahl

                        In Perplexity you can choose which LLM is used and the answers referenced all Wikipedia as the main source.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk_salute_controversy

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

                          Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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                          @randahl All the “credible” news sources it says. Would those sources be owned by billionaire sycophants who are all his buddies? Hm-m-m🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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