Anybody who has worked in IT support in the trenches in enterprise IT will tell you there are some Excel power users who basically run the company, are macros wizards and actual ninjas.. about 0.1% of the workforce.
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@GossiTheDog This is stupid, of course - but, as they say, show me the incentive and I'll show you the outcome.
Still, I don't quite understand the "cost" thing. If used properly, AI should reduce cost. By using Claude, I was able to do in 3 months what I previously couldn't do in 5 years. This is on a Pro subscription (the cheapest one) that costs something like 180 euros per year.
If we had hired a professional programmer for the same work, their *monthly* salary would have been more than 10 times higher - and they would have become annoyed with me and left after 2 months anyway.
@bontchev @GossiTheDog that 180 Euros is not covering the cost of inference. And you're correct: for users who do not let their skills atrophy, GenAI can be of value. For the majority, it will be a provider of brain rot, unmaintainable code and vulns, and for society, the extinction of the senior in the workplace.
At $ORKPLACE, I've now run into the first case of a user who is patently wrong in his interpretation of some vendor docs but won't budge because AI summarizes it wrong, and he trusts the 'puter more than his colleagues.
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@bontchev @GossiTheDog that 180 Euros is not covering the cost of inference. And you're correct: for users who do not let their skills atrophy, GenAI can be of value. For the majority, it will be a provider of brain rot, unmaintainable code and vulns, and for society, the extinction of the senior in the workplace.
At $ORKPLACE, I've now run into the first case of a user who is patently wrong in his interpretation of some vendor docs but won't budge because AI summarizes it wrong, and he trusts the 'puter more than his colleagues.
@bertdriehuis @GossiTheDog I was talking about the financial cost, since people say that AI is too expensive. You're talking about something different - the potential harm of it. But even there, what I said applies - it has to be used *correctly*. Never trust it blindly. Know what it can and cannot do. And, yes, some skills will eventually atrophy - how many people can multiply 3-digit numbers in their head now that we have calculators? Do we still insist that we must multiply by hand because calculators atrophy our math skills?
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@GrandmasterBash @malwareminigun Well, I can speak only from personal experience. I don't know what they are doing. With my Pro subscription of 180 euros per year, I often hit the 5-hour session token limit but the most I've ever used of the weekly token limit is 78%.
@bontchev @malwareminigun I also have no clue. The current policy is that everybody should do as much as possible via LLMs (a policy that I don't follow aside from a few smaller usecases, productivity wise nobody really seem to notice ). I guess that changes since microsoft introduced usage based pricing in April and our budgeting is not really prepard for it.
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@GossiTheDog I’m starting to see some companies log all AI prompts and review them to see what people are using AI to do. The ones I’ve seen do this are positioning it as a way to discover additional training opportunities for their staff — to train them that they gave other, better tools to compare PDFs, for example. It makes sense if you have the tools and resources to put together this kind of analysis.
@deepthoughts10 @GossiTheDog Brian, is there any easy way for companies to log all AI prompts for review?
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@deepthoughts10 @GossiTheDog Brian, is there any easy way for companies to log all AI prompts for review?
@euroinfosec @deepthoughts10 depends on the tool but 'yes*'. Problems = log volume (it's very large) and who has time, responsibility, budget and knowledge in business to sit and review hundreds of thousands a prompts each week in a large org to police how people use tools and understand what they're doing?
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In an era where companies need to become more efficient and diverse they’ve basically picked the least efficient way to do it, with the biggest risks and highest costs - because everybody else is doing it.
I know somebody at one of the big 4 who has written something in Claude that prompts Claude each twenty minutes for a question, then feeds Claude’s question back into Claude to use their tokens - because token usage is factored into employee evaluations. What are we even doing.
basically loads more of these headlines over the next few years, then C level execs leaving on golden parachutes https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/execs-confused-horrified-huge-ai-135718505.html
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basically loads more of these headlines over the next few years, then C level execs leaving on golden parachutes https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/execs-confused-horrified-huge-ai-135718505.html
@GossiTheDog I'd actually pay for those parachutes to be literal gold, then let them jump with them
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basically loads more of these headlines over the next few years, then C level execs leaving on golden parachutes https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/execs-confused-horrified-huge-ai-135718505.html
@GossiTheDog that's a heck of a headline.
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