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  • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

    📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

    The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

    A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

    https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

    hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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    hsza@social.tudbut.de
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    #61

    @tg ok wow this page is a javascript crime. worse than normal text would be for no reason

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    • sr_rolando@fnordon.deS sr_rolando@fnordon.de

      @CowMan You did see the link to https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet/ascii right there on the page, didn’t you? @tg

      cowman@thecanadian.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #62

      @sr_rolando @tg ohhhhhhh I did not.. ❤️

      Well, really wish I hadn't missed that. Yes much nicer 😛

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      • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

        📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

        The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

        A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

        https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

        ephemeromorph@topspicy.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #63

        @tg Thank you! I enjoyed reading that.

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        • janeishly@beige.partyJ janeishly@beige.party

          @nickchomey @tg @ska You could always use the UK English style instead, which is a spaced en dash (Alt+0150). As a translator, that's what I now default to (having been told in no uncertain terms when I submitted one of my very first projects that my previous habit, of using hyphens, was unacceptable!)

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          #64

          @janeishly @tg @ska thanks, I was unaware that UK preferred en dash! But as far as I'm concerned, en and em dash are the same thing. Lazy hyphens are the way forward! (I don't write anything "professionally" - if I did, I'd probably be more willing to use en or em)

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          • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

            📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

            The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

            A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

            https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

            kranzkrone@quasselkopf.deK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #65

            @tg
            I strongly disagree, because first the terminology Internet describes the borderline structure and in my opinion not the layers on top of it.

            Secondly, this so-called Internet is a vast and almost infinite space, literally in the name.

            Third, there are so many layers of or in this Internet that are split into other layers in itself and so on. When one gets filled up or mutilated beyond repair, another one takes over or else.

            Long story short, there is no "the internet" but many different flavors/variations of this concept, running on top of hardware that spanning the globe across cultures and borders alike.

            Internet was and is what you and people in general make of it. 😉

            #Internet #society #technology #digital
            @bestiaexmachina

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            • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

              📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

              The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

              A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

              https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

              siegefeathers@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #66

              @tg the start of the essay is right, that *did* make me feel better.

              I first got online in 2001 and I miss 2000s internet every day, it's lovely to know that what really *made* the early internet is all still around and never went away. Makes me want to learn how to use it.

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              • sr_rolando@fnordon.deS sr_rolando@fnordon.de

                @CowMan You did see the link to https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet/ascii right there on the page, didn’t you? @tg

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                #67

                @sr_rolando @CowMan @tg OMG THANK YOU... I really wanted to read this but I HATE sites that slowly/barely fade in a few lines at a time the entire time, I cannot do this progressive whatever design.

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                • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                  📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                  The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                  A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                  https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                  saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #68

                  @tg

                  this looks like a good place to plug

                  https://marginalia-search.com/explore

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                  • jake4480@c.imJ jake4480@c.im

                    @tg HELL yes. Been working on a piece about this myself, collecting up articles and such for it, like this one! Great piece - 💯

                    tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #69

                    @jake4480 i shall read it when you post it! been subb'd for a while

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                    • spinni81@mastodon.socialS spinni81@mastodon.social

                      @tg Now I feel old because the Internet I grew up on is the old rusty bits.

                      tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #70

                      @spinni81 me, too

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                      • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @tg one thing that's a little different between 2006 and 2026 is if you try to host something yourself a lot more people and god knows what else are constantly attempting to break in and knock your site over. i tried running a phpbb forum a while back and eventually it got hacked and overrun with spam and it was so bad my hosting provider called me on the telephone to work out what to do about it. i've been afraid to host anything more complicated than a static serve site ever since 😕

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                        #71

                        @aeva @tg To be fair... it was always like this. The only thing that's changed is the spammers have a lot more compute power now. But even when I was a young guy on gaming forums, an unmoderated forum would succumb to "enhancing pills" spam in less than a week. And they still do.

                        Self-hosting is still fun and valid. The internet is just noisier, because there are a lot more people on it.

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                        • virkon42@det.socialV virkon42@det.social

                          @tg I am really glad, that there is the ascii view. I pretty much hate this animation.

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                          #72

                          @virkon42 of course, and i know!

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                          • botolo86@mstdn.socialB botolo86@mstdn.social

                            @tg you forgot the BBS systems. Some of them are still there and quite active.

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                            #73

                            @botolo86 oh, i didn't forget, they just didn't make it into this one

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                            • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                              @tg

                              <blink></blink>

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                              #74

                              @n_dimension bring it back!

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                              • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                @tg ok wow this page is a javascript crime. worse than normal text would be for no reason

                                tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #75

                                @hsza for some reason - and that is because the web is free and i can do what i want. there's an ascii version

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                                • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                  📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                  The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                  A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                  https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                                  miff@fedi.miffthefox.infoM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #76

                                  @tg@indieweb.social The legal environment around the net changed though. Gone are the days where you can set up an independent community by renting a cheap VPS, standing up phpBB and calling it a day- now you have to worry about getting legally wrecked from copyright (Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market), CASM (FOSTA-SESTA), and ID (Online Safety Act) law.

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                                  • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                    @hsza for some reason - and that is because the web is free and i can do what i want. there's an ascii version

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                                    #77

                                    @tg well yes of course but it’s logical to want your essays to be easy to read (so people read them), this is not quite that

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                                    • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                      @tg well yes of course but it’s logical to want your essays to be easy to read (so people read them), this is not quite that

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                                      #78

                                      @hsza but i think it look cool

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                                      • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                        @hsza but i think it look cool

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                                        #79

                                        @tg yk what, fair enough, you do you lol

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                                        • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                          @tg yk what, fair enough, you do you lol

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                                          #80

                                          @hsza honestly that's all i can do!

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