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  • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

    📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

    The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

    A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

    https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

    kranzkrone@quasselkopf.deK This user is from outside of this forum
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    kranzkrone@quasselkopf.de
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #65

    @tg
    I strongly disagree, because first the terminology Internet describes the borderline structure and in my opinion not the layers on top of it.

    Secondly, this so-called Internet is a vast and almost infinite space, literally in the name.

    Third, there are so many layers of or in this Internet that are split into other layers in itself and so on. When one gets filled up or mutilated beyond repair, another one takes over or else.

    Long story short, there is no "the internet" but many different flavors/variations of this concept, running on top of hardware that spanning the globe across cultures and borders alike.

    Internet was and is what you and people in general make of it. 😉

    #Internet #society #technology #digital
    @bestiaexmachina

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    • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

      📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

      The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

      A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

      https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

      siegefeathers@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      siegefeathers@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      siegefeathers@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #66

      @tg the start of the essay is right, that *did* make me feel better.

      I first got online in 2001 and I miss 2000s internet every day, it's lovely to know that what really *made* the early internet is all still around and never went away. Makes me want to learn how to use it.

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      • sr_rolando@fnordon.deS sr_rolando@fnordon.de

        @CowMan You did see the link to https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet/ascii right there on the page, didn’t you? @tg

        colinstu@birdbutt.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #67

        @sr_rolando @CowMan @tg OMG THANK YOU... I really wanted to read this but I HATE sites that slowly/barely fade in a few lines at a time the entire time, I cannot do this progressive whatever design.

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        • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

          📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

          The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

          A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

          https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

          saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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          saltywizard@beige.party
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #68

          @tg

          this looks like a good place to plug

          https://marginalia-search.com/explore

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          • jake4480@c.imJ jake4480@c.im

            @tg HELL yes. Been working on a piece about this myself, collecting up articles and such for it, like this one! Great piece - 💯

            tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            tg@indieweb.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #69

            @jake4480 i shall read it when you post it! been subb'd for a while

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            • spinni81@mastodon.socialS spinni81@mastodon.social

              @tg Now I feel old because the Internet I grew up on is the old rusty bits.

              tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              tg@indieweb.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #70

              @spinni81 me, too

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              • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @tg one thing that's a little different between 2006 and 2026 is if you try to host something yourself a lot more people and god knows what else are constantly attempting to break in and knock your site over. i tried running a phpbb forum a while back and eventually it got hacked and overrun with spam and it was so bad my hosting provider called me on the telephone to work out what to do about it. i've been afraid to host anything more complicated than a static serve site ever since 😕

                crittero@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #71

                @aeva @tg To be fair... it was always like this. The only thing that's changed is the spammers have a lot more compute power now. But even when I was a young guy on gaming forums, an unmoderated forum would succumb to "enhancing pills" spam in less than a week. And they still do.

                Self-hosting is still fun and valid. The internet is just noisier, because there are a lot more people on it.

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                • virkon42@det.socialV virkon42@det.social

                  @tg I am really glad, that there is the ascii view. I pretty much hate this animation.

                  tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  tg@indieweb.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #72

                  @virkon42 of course, and i know!

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                  • botolo86@mstdn.socialB botolo86@mstdn.social

                    @tg you forgot the BBS systems. Some of them are still there and quite active.

                    tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    tg@indieweb.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #73

                    @botolo86 oh, i didn't forget, they just didn't make it into this one

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                    • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                      @tg

                      <blink></blink>

                      tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      tg@indieweb.social
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                      #74

                      @n_dimension bring it back!

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                      • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                        @tg ok wow this page is a javascript crime. worse than normal text would be for no reason

                        tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        tg@indieweb.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #75

                        @hsza for some reason - and that is because the web is free and i can do what i want. there's an ascii version

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                        • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                          📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                          The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                          A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                          https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                          miff@fedi.miffthefox.infoM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          miff@fedi.miffthefox.info
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #76

                          @tg@indieweb.social The legal environment around the net changed though. Gone are the days where you can set up an independent community by renting a cheap VPS, standing up phpBB and calling it a day- now you have to worry about getting legally wrecked from copyright (Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market), CASM (FOSTA-SESTA), and ID (Online Safety Act) law.

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                          • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                            @hsza for some reason - and that is because the web is free and i can do what i want. there's an ascii version

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                            hsza@social.tudbut.de
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #77

                            @tg well yes of course but it’s logical to want your essays to be easy to read (so people read them), this is not quite that

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                            • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                              @tg well yes of course but it’s logical to want your essays to be easy to read (so people read them), this is not quite that

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                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #78

                              @hsza but i think it look cool

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                              • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                @hsza but i think it look cool

                                hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                hsza@social.tudbut.de
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #79

                                @tg yk what, fair enough, you do you lol

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                                • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                  @tg yk what, fair enough, you do you lol

                                  tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #80

                                  @hsza honestly that's all i can do!

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                                  • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                    📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                    The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                    A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                    https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                                    n8dly@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #81

                                    @tg Thanks, Terry. That did make me feel better.

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                                    • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                      📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                      The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                      A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                      https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                                      acka47@openbiblio.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      acka47@openbiblio.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #82

                                      @tg Thanks for this essay! At the German librarian convention #bibliocon26 , I will soon be advocating for more participation in web standards work and I am tempted to take over some of the thinking. Sometimes I believe, libraries do not want to give anyone the opportunity to call them "boring" and that's why so many are chasing the latest hypes, like currently AI. Why not just embrace being boring, essential knowledge infrastructure and also start supporting boring standards work?

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                                      • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                        @jake4480 i shall read it when you post it! been subb'd for a while

                                        jake4480@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #83

                                        @tg oh awesome thank you- really gotta get it out! 😂

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                                        • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                          📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                          The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                          A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                          https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                                          thelancashireman@hostux.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          thelancashireman@hostux.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #84

                                          @tg

                                          MAGA - Make Archie Great Again!

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