@vosje62 @bert_hubert @jwcph agreed, look feel and functionality is important. I would say not changing to Linux in my career has been driven but changes to familiarity of interfaces and management for me more than anything but the gap and knowledge on that has shrunk significantly. The key thing though, that I've seen over and over again is, you cannot change orgs tech stack's from the engineer level.

Nerds get how to transition, as I said even when we do understand it that process can still take months. Security initiatives, like most tech initiatives fail, because there is no executive buy in. Not just from the CIO or CISO, but from the CFO and CEO. These are hard to gain traction without showing both limited business disruption and increased value, but also with a coupling of regulation and law.

Ultimately for Europe to kick the big tech habit, it has to include thought leadership, which I appreciate Bert leading well, and also resilience regulation. At minimum we need to be having a discussion of where our data is held, what do we do if we lose access, and how does that impact our business resilience. I like that this conversation is gaining traction, but it still feels like it's missing in most board rooms.

@bert_hubert @jwcph as a former Microsoft customer facing engineer, I can back this up. Changing tools is incredibly painful for orgs, just in terms of training and Skilling. We held sessions that would last a whole week just for technical people on how to use new tools, and that process would always require follow up training and reinforcement for technical people. For non technical people this is even more pointed. Doing migrations to or from Teams, which no one loves, was and still is a laborious and slogging process, something that takes months or longer. Changing systems is hard, and without mandates and top level support, is extremely hard.