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  • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

    @dlakelan There isn't a "big mood" style of expression big enough to express the size of the mood I'm currently experiencing from your toot.

    This was all a mistake. We should go back to disconnected BBSes. Or maybe ditch all the digital stuff and return to encyclopedias.

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    @douglasvb @dlakelan YES

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    • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

      @douglasvb @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan
      It was! And it allowed me to actually make friends for once, too!

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      #159

      @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan same!!!

      I am STILL friends with people I met online in the early days of the Internet and I've met about 75% of them in person at least once!

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      • maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM maryaustinbooks@mstdn.social

        @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
        I want to cry when I think about the blog and lolcat glory days of the 2000s.

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        #160

        @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan man, i miss livejournal.

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        • rothko@beige.partyR rothko@beige.party

          @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan man, i miss livejournal.

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          #161

          @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
          At the very least, Dreamwidth exists. Fork from back when LJ started showing signs of going bad.

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          • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

            Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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            #162

            @dlakelan I think we're all here.

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            • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

              @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
              At the very least, Dreamwidth exists. Fork from back when LJ started showing signs of going bad.

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              #163

              @pteryx @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan I met so many good people on ElJay. It was a tragedy when it went bad and then got sold to Russia.

              Remember dead journal? A few friends went over there for a while. What ever happened to that platform?

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              • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                @MamaLake @dlakelan it never really went away, technically. People just stopped paying attention

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                #164

                @fluffykittycat @MamaLake @dlakelan
                It's hard to "pay attention" to what's been claimed by link rot, pulled behind paywalls or login-walls, moved to Discord for a false sense of "safety", deleted out of fear of being scraped by "AI" crawlers, DDoSed by "AI" scrapers, downranked by search engines (yes, I know about Marginalia Search), and/or buried in piles of SEO slop counterfeit pages.

                It used to be trivial to *find new non-corporate webpages*.

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                • aleksimanninen@cyberplace.socialA aleksimanninen@cyberplace.social

                  @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan and with https://marginalia-search.com/ you can find it again. It's so beautiful and strange to see the old web again

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                  #165

                  @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan Marginalia Search is cool! One of its paradoxes is that it appears to respect sites that reject crawlers and bots (ex: jwz.org) -- so many traditional websites that are still actively maintained may be opaque to it, as their admins try to stem the bot onslaught.

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                    #166

                    RE: https://dice.camp/@pteryx/117368247487117847

                    @joshisanonymous @dlakelan
                    That's part of it, but not all of it. Other parts are more active poisoning, or entropy outstripping the ability to rebuild.

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                    • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                      Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                      #167

                      @dlakelan I cofounded an ISP in 1996. I am really sorry.

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                      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                        @douglasvb @dlakelan
                        Campfires

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                        #168

                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @douglasvb @dlakelan

                        & stone tablets

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                        • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                          @pteryx @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan I met so many good people on ElJay. It was a tragedy when it went bad and then got sold to Russia.

                          Remember dead journal? A few friends went over there for a while. What ever happened to that platform?

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                          #169

                          @douglasvb @pteryx @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan i dunno about deadjournal; i ported everything to dreamwidth before deleting my LJ. early adopter, 4-digit user number.... but yeah. russia was the last straw.

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                          • ozdreaming@infosec.exchangeO ozdreaming@infosec.exchange

                            @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan Marginalia Search is cool! One of its paradoxes is that it appears to respect sites that reject crawlers and bots (ex: jwz.org) -- so many traditional websites that are still actively maintained may be opaque to it, as their admins try to stem the bot onslaught.

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                            @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan now this feels like a Dark Forest hypothesis (if not re: the Fermi paradox), where frontier model bots are the malign intelligences being avoided.

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                            • meraord@mastodonsweden.seM meraord@mastodonsweden.se

                              @killick @dlakelan the white *was* easier to read though.

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                              @meraord @killick @dlakelan
                              I find light-color-on-dark-color easiest to read on a glowing screen. White-on-black is the take with the strongest contrast, but pale-color-on-black or white-on-very-dark-grey or pale-color-on-very-dark-contrasting-color also works. Didn't much care for pale grey background as a default before.

                              The shift to black-on-white as the default reads to me as part of the corporatization push, an attempt to make the Web look "respectable".

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                              • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                #172

                                @dlakelan How dare you call me out like that! 🤣

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                                • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                  Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                  @dlakelan Lol I feel like an alien considering i'm 18 here

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                                  • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                    Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                    #174

                                    @dlakelan That tracks.

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                                    • rothko@beige.partyR rothko@beige.party

                                      @douglasvb @pteryx @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan i dunno about deadjournal; i ported everything to dreamwidth before deleting my LJ. early adopter, 4-digit user number.... but yeah. russia was the last straw.

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                                      #175

                                      @rothko @pteryx @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan I pulled all of my ElJay content out into an export file that I was able to jam into a WordPress instance later although it's all set to private. So at least I've got an archive somewhere.

                                      I think it was about when Six Apart took over that I stopped posting on ElJay. Then I finally exported my content and deleted everything when the Russian purchase went through and stuff started moving to Russia.

                                      It was great when Live journal was still invite only. You had to know someone who trusted you enough with one of their very few invite codes to join.

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                                      • ozdreaming@infosec.exchangeO ozdreaming@infosec.exchange

                                        @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan now this feels like a Dark Forest hypothesis (if not re: the Fermi paradox), where frontier model bots are the malign intelligences being avoided.

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                                        #176

                                        @ozdreaming @aleksimanninen @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan now we use tool to feed the bots poisoned data and trap them forever in endless fake pages. What a time to be alive.

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                                        • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                          Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                          #177

                                          @dlakelan truth

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