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  • aoanla@hachyderm.ioA aoanla@hachyderm.io

    @pteryx @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan yeah, it is very difficult to have this conversation with people (especially when you know they just migrated away from Facebook... and can't see the pattern here)

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    #154

    @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
    I'm starting to suspect that the vast majority of people *didn't notice* that for about a decade and a half there, the Net was a public space primarily about things that *weren't* corporate.

    (Before that it was more restricted-access, after that it had been captured.)

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    • randomgeek@masto.hackers.townR randomgeek@masto.hackers.town

      @dlakelan @d_rift to be fair I don’t regret building the web. I regret building all its parasitic industries that promised to be symbiotic.

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      #155

      @randomgeek @dlakelan in an SF accent, "trust us bro" rhymes with "symbiot", so I guess the con was there all along, but. Yeah, same.

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      • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

        @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
        I'm starting to suspect that the vast majority of people *didn't notice* that for about a decade and a half there, the Net was a public space primarily about things that *weren't* corporate.

        (Before that it was more restricted-access, after that it had been captured.)

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        #156

        @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan wasn't that an amazing time for humanity?

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        • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

          @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan wasn't that an amazing time for humanity?

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          #157

          @douglasvb @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan
          It was! And it allowed me to actually make friends for once, too!

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          • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

            @dlakelan There isn't a "big mood" style of expression big enough to express the size of the mood I'm currently experiencing from your toot.

            This was all a mistake. We should go back to disconnected BBSes. Or maybe ditch all the digital stuff and return to encyclopedias.

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            #158

            @douglasvb @dlakelan YES

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            • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

              @douglasvb @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan
              It was! And it allowed me to actually make friends for once, too!

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              #159

              @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan same!!!

              I am STILL friends with people I met online in the early days of the Internet and I've met about 75% of them in person at least once!

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              • maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM maryaustinbooks@mstdn.social

                @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                I want to cry when I think about the blog and lolcat glory days of the 2000s.

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                #160

                @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan man, i miss livejournal.

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                • rothko@beige.partyR rothko@beige.party

                  @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan man, i miss livejournal.

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                  #161

                  @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                  At the very least, Dreamwidth exists. Fork from back when LJ started showing signs of going bad.

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                  • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                    Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                    #162

                    @dlakelan I think we're all here.

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                    • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                      @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                      At the very least, Dreamwidth exists. Fork from back when LJ started showing signs of going bad.

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                      #163

                      @pteryx @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan I met so many good people on ElJay. It was a tragedy when it went bad and then got sold to Russia.

                      Remember dead journal? A few friends went over there for a while. What ever happened to that platform?

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                      • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                        @MamaLake @dlakelan it never really went away, technically. People just stopped paying attention

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                        #164

                        @fluffykittycat @MamaLake @dlakelan
                        It's hard to "pay attention" to what's been claimed by link rot, pulled behind paywalls or login-walls, moved to Discord for a false sense of "safety", deleted out of fear of being scraped by "AI" crawlers, DDoSed by "AI" scrapers, downranked by search engines (yes, I know about Marginalia Search), and/or buried in piles of SEO slop counterfeit pages.

                        It used to be trivial to *find new non-corporate webpages*.

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                        • aleksimanninen@cyberplace.socialA aleksimanninen@cyberplace.social

                          @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan and with https://marginalia-search.com/ you can find it again. It's so beautiful and strange to see the old web again

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                          @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan Marginalia Search is cool! One of its paradoxes is that it appears to respect sites that reject crawlers and bots (ex: jwz.org) -- so many traditional websites that are still actively maintained may be opaque to it, as their admins try to stem the bot onslaught.

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                            #166

                            RE: https://dice.camp/@pteryx/117368247487117847

                            @joshisanonymous @dlakelan
                            That's part of it, but not all of it. Other parts are more active poisoning, or entropy outstripping the ability to rebuild.

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                            • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                              Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                              @dlakelan I cofounded an ISP in 1996. I am really sorry.

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                              • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                @douglasvb @dlakelan
                                Campfires

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                                #168

                                @GhostOnTheHalfShell @douglasvb @dlakelan

                                & stone tablets

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                                • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                                  @pteryx @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan I met so many good people on ElJay. It was a tragedy when it went bad and then got sold to Russia.

                                  Remember dead journal? A few friends went over there for a while. What ever happened to that platform?

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                                  #169

                                  @douglasvb @pteryx @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan i dunno about deadjournal; i ported everything to dreamwidth before deleting my LJ. early adopter, 4-digit user number.... but yeah. russia was the last straw.

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                                  • ozdreaming@infosec.exchangeO ozdreaming@infosec.exchange

                                    @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan Marginalia Search is cool! One of its paradoxes is that it appears to respect sites that reject crawlers and bots (ex: jwz.org) -- so many traditional websites that are still actively maintained may be opaque to it, as their admins try to stem the bot onslaught.

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                                    #170

                                    @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan now this feels like a Dark Forest hypothesis (if not re: the Fermi paradox), where frontier model bots are the malign intelligences being avoided.

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                                    • meraord@mastodonsweden.seM meraord@mastodonsweden.se

                                      @killick @dlakelan the white *was* easier to read though.

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                                      @meraord @killick @dlakelan
                                      I find light-color-on-dark-color easiest to read on a glowing screen. White-on-black is the take with the strongest contrast, but pale-color-on-black or white-on-very-dark-grey or pale-color-on-very-dark-contrasting-color also works. Didn't much care for pale grey background as a default before.

                                      The shift to black-on-white as the default reads to me as part of the corporatization push, an attempt to make the Web look "respectable".

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                                      • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                        Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                        #172

                                        @dlakelan How dare you call me out like that! 🤣

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                                        • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                          Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                          #173

                                          @dlakelan Lol I feel like an alien considering i'm 18 here

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